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  • Member since
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  • From: Panama City Beach, Fl
Painting layers.
Posted by BBAT222 on Tuesday, August 2, 2011 8:27 PM

Lots has changed since '64 as far as modeling goes.   back then a teenager most advance equipment was some glues, rattle cans, and and filler.   One of the things today that gets me is how many layers is normal  and how far can it go?  I've done a few models, but often wonder if I have done it in the right sequence or the right materials, not to mention the use of Future and or gloss knockers?

 

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cml
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  • From: Brisbane, Australia
Posted by cml on Tuesday, August 2, 2011 8:48 PM

Good question.

To be honest, I don't know.

But, I suspect the answer is: "As many layers as needed to achieve what you want to achieve".

I recently completed an F-4 in splinter camo which required 4 different colours (layered), which was preceded by primer, then followed by clear coat, (decals) clear coat, wash, matte coat.  So, in some parts, up to 8 layers.

Using an airbrush, I still managed to retain the details of the kit.

I think the key is to get nice thin layers down - for which i think an airbrush helps tremendously.

If you were to brush paint, the number of layers you can lay without losing kit details might be reduced.

In terms of the right sequence/materials, mine is as follows:

Primer (actual primer or just coloured paint), scheme colours, gloss, decals, gloss, wash, matte.

I normally use acrylics for everything except the wash for which i use enamels or artists oils.

Hope this helps.

Chris.

Chris

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  • From: Panama City Beach, Fl
Posted by BBAT222 on Tuesday, August 2, 2011 9:07 PM

Thanks Chris.   I am using the airbrush.  So trying to learn all at the same time is tough!  Thanks for your help,  it does help to put the pieces together -so to say hay what-.

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  • From: Twin Cities of Minnesota
Posted by Don Stauffer on Wednesday, August 3, 2011 8:34 AM

I use a minimum of two coats of color, probably never more than five, unless I run into problems and have to sand off bad coats.  Now, on a larger model, I may put down both coats at one sitting, especially with fast drying flats.  By the time I get one coat on the whole model I can go back and put the second coat down on parts I sprayed first.  I go for coverage and smoothness on first coat, correct color on second.  Gloss finishes may require more.

Don Stauffer in Minnesota

cml
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  • From: Brisbane, Australia
Posted by cml on Thursday, August 4, 2011 1:02 AM

No dramas BBat.

Look forward to seeing some of your builds in the future Yes

Chris.

Chris

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  • From: Panama City Beach, Fl
Posted by BBAT222 on Friday, August 5, 2011 12:29 PM

Dear Chris;

First I did my time in the Navy and aboard the proud Aircraft Carrier CVA-19 USS Hancock, ships company (Evap gang).  Then 22yr's on the Columbus Fire Dept.  I'm 64 and have many physical problems including and aliment that is much like palsy.  So if you want a good laugh I'll attempt to put put some pics.   I'm learning to live with one eye from an operation that went way wrong.   Thus my A-4, F-8, and bi-plains looks as if they been hedge hopping (much less being weathered) big ole billy bongs.

       A friend of ours who lives in the south-east of Australia and on face-book with my wife (Betty).  Lost their 2 yr old to playing with matches.  Sorry to all and may God Bless

        A lot has changed in modeling  since the 50's and 60's (and a lot more expensive, when an AMT model car cost $3.50!) Back then my most advance model was a chopped and channeled '32 Ford.  Perfectionism seems to be the word of the times now.   In all  your experience.  What is the most problems with the use of layers and effects.  

God Bless.   Buddy B,  Panama City Beach Florida.   

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  • From: Panama City Beach, Fl
Posted by BBAT222 on Friday, September 9, 2011 6:23 PM

 I've tried the silly putty.  My 1st time and still getting use to to the airbrushes to boot.  I've a P-51 waiting and I'll use the other Tacky putties on it.

Here is the Spitfire with a lot of sanding and touch-up to go.

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  • From: Hayward, CA
Posted by GreenThumb on Friday, September 9, 2011 8:13 PM

I use just enough to cover, any more and you risk losing fine detail.

 

Mike

 

 

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  • From: Hayward, CA
Posted by GreenThumb on Friday, September 9, 2011 8:16 PM

BBAT222

 I've tried the silly putty.  My 1st time and still getting use to to the airbrushes to boot.  I've a P-51 waiting and I'll use the other Tacky putties on it.

Here is the Spitfire with a lot of sanding and touch-up to go.

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Not bad at all for being so long since you painted. Keep practicing my friend as we all need to. I haven't airbrushed in many months. I wonder if I still can? Big Smile

Mike

 

 

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