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  • Member since
    April 2004
  • From: Windy city, US
Posted by keilau on Thursday, August 18, 2011 12:27 PM

DoogsATX

Excellent - thanks gents! No time to futz with it right now, but maybe next week.

It was basically sitting unused out in Arizona for a decade...so going dry and cracked seals and such are certainly a likelihood!

Can you tell us what brand is it? A picture of it would be nice. If it is a Silentaire, you can try to contact Ernesto Ceraudo.

But Ernie's old web link at silentaircompressor.com does not seem to work anymore. Anyone has an update?

  • Member since
    June 2010
  • From: Austin, TX
Posted by DoogsATX on Thursday, August 18, 2011 10:22 AM

Excellent - thanks gents! No time to futz with it right now, but maybe next week.

It was basically sitting unused out in Arizona for a decade...so going dry and cracked seals and such are certainly a likelihood!

On the Bench: 1/32 Trumpeter P-47 | 1/32 Hasegawa Bf 109G | 1/144 Eduard MiG-21MF x2

On Deck:  1/350 HMS Dreadnought

Blog/Completed Builds: doogsmodels.com

 

  • Member since
    December 2004
  • From: Houston, Texas
Posted by panzerpilot on Thursday, August 18, 2011 9:54 AM

It sounds like it may have gone "dry" and or, bad seal(s). I'd take it apart and have a look. Inspect the seals and replace/lubricate seals (with silicon?) as necessary. Add some oil.

-Tom

  • Member since
    October 2007
  • From: Scotland
Posted by Milairjunkie on Wednesday, August 17, 2011 3:29 AM

On the assumption that this is an oil filled model that uses a refrigeration style compressor motor, here are a couple of things to consider;

If it has been sitting idle for a few years, its possible that there is there is a build up of corrosion on the valve plates, causing partial seizure. If your model has a removable lid (some are sealed), when you remove it you will see the motor shaft (vertical) with the piston attached & running horizontally, the head that the piston engages in should have a square block at it outer side held down by four bolts. Removing the four bolts gets you into the valve assembly, which is usually a set of flat machined plates & some U shaped parts, these should be quite easily removed & cleaned up if required

Another issue with these compressors is the wrong oil being used, which will gum up & cause problems. Again, if you can remove the lid & If the oil looks to be gummed up or solidified anywhere, you will need to tip the oil & clean the whole lot out with a suitable solvent, once you have done this & removed all the oil & solvent, let it sit for a while so that all the remaining solvent can evaporate & then refill with the correct oil. Sil-Air, Silentaire & all the rest of the silent compressor manufacturers sell high temperature synthetic oil specific to silent compressors & as far as I am aware the brand shouldn't matter much as they are all pretty much identical.

Silent compressor oil isn't that cheap, so you may want to refill it initially with regular compressor oil for a test run - but if it works OK, you will have to dump the oil, thoroughly clean & replace with the correct stuff.

 

Edit:- In this video, the head where the valve plates are located is highlighted at 1:02;

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nA-XbfxqgRo&feature=related

  • Member since
    June 2010
  • From: Austin, TX
Compressor Troubleshooting
Posted by DoogsATX on Tuesday, August 16, 2011 11:32 PM

Got a strange issue going on that I figure somebody here might be able to help out with.

A few months ago, my parents came to town and brought along a few of my old modeling supplies from when they kitted out a craft room for me at their house in Arizona (they basically retired and moved when I went to college...so a well-stocked craft room was I think a bribe to convince me to spend time out there where I didn't know anybody).

Among the supplies was a silent compressor. I think maybe a Badger, but I'm not sure and forgot to look at the brand this afternoon. Originally came with a metal enclosure thing that's long since gone. 

Anyway, I've been thinking about trying to move over to it for airbrushing so I can sell and not have to move my big ghastly shop compressor. So this afternoon I pulled it out, plugged it in, and fired it up.

Good news is that it did something.

Bad news is that it would sound like it was airing up for a few seconds, then it would stop and hiss out, then start up again, repeating every 3-4 seconds. The gauge on the compressor/tank (not the regulator) would climb, then plummet back to zero, then climb again. I could feel air coming out from the air filter on the "exhale" side of the cycle. But it's not holding air or building up pressure.

Anybody have any idea what's going on? And how I can fix it? I'm extremely comfortable replacing the air plumbing if that's what it takes. Less comfortable if it's a motor issue or something.

On the Bench: 1/32 Trumpeter P-47 | 1/32 Hasegawa Bf 109G | 1/144 Eduard MiG-21MF x2

On Deck:  1/350 HMS Dreadnought

Blog/Completed Builds: doogsmodels.com

 

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