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  • Member since
    January 2010
  • From: Paris, Texas
What Happened?
Posted by Michael B on Tuesday, September 13, 2011 5:28 AM

Hi All,

My last painting session, I painted an automobile body with rattle can enamel in my spray booth.  I washed the body in warm soapy water, rinsed and dried overnight.  The next day the ambient temperature was about 85 degrees and the humidity less than 30%.  I gave it two mist two mist coats about 15 minutes apart and one wet coat.  It looked pretty darned good.  I put it in a dust free area and let it cure for about 30 hours.  When I checked it, some of the areas had a nice glossy finish while other areas looked dull, like frost.  What did I do wrong and what can I do to correct it?  Thanks,  Michael B.

  • Member since
    August 2005
  • From: Sydney, Australia
Posted by Phil_H on Tuesday, September 13, 2011 5:46 AM

Hi Michael,

What you're describing sounds like an effect known as "blooming". However, blooming most often occurs under cold/humid conditions. It's often caused by condensation on the surface as a result of the cooling effect of the paint's propellant evaporating away. Was the "frosting" effect more prominent on areas where the paint had been laid down more heavily?

 

  • Member since
    January 2010
  • From: Paris, Texas
Posted by Michael B on Tuesday, September 13, 2011 8:18 AM

I don't thnk so, since I tried my best to watch my speed, distance to get the most even coverage possible, but it may have.  I've heard about the effects of humidity on gloss paints, that's why I mentioned the humidity factor.  It has been unusually dry here in NE Texas lately.  I was thinking of doing a light wet-sand or polishing it out, if possible, then perhaps another wet coat.  I've only done a few gloss coat projects before with decent results.  That's why I'm not sure how to proceed.  Mainly I do flat finishes on armor and aircraft.  Regards,  Michael B. 

  • Member since
    November 2009
  • From: Twin Cities of Minnesota
Posted by Don Stauffer on Tuesday, September 13, 2011 8:58 AM

Two things that can cause the effect you mentioned are variations in the distance of the can from the model or the speed of movement.  Sometimes if you inadvertently vary the distance, the closer areas get a nice gloss but the parts that were further away get a pebble-like orange peel.  Or, if it is the speed of movement of the can, the paint in the slower moving area gets a good gloss while the paint in the area that was moving faster gets the orange peel.

Don Stauffer in Minnesota

  • Member since
    August 2005
  • From: Sydney, Australia
Posted by Phil_H on Tuesday, September 13, 2011 9:14 AM

Hi Michael,

To be clear, the "blooming" effect I described above generally describes a situation where condensation causes a milky haze-like effect on the painted surface. This is what I assumed when you said a "frosted" appearance. In a low-humidity environment like you describe, I'm not sure what else could cause a similar effect.

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