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  • Member since
    August 2005
  • From: Sydney, Australia
Posted by Phil_H on Thursday, September 22, 2011 8:44 PM

randypandy831
he was saying 20 pounds was to high to spray. i was saying i didn't have a problem spraying at 20 pounds. no overspray. the fast drying problem still lives on. if it keeps up i'll proble give hawk eye products a try. 

Perhaps not so much an issue of overspray, but spraying at 20PSI may exacerbate the fast drying problem due to faster evaporation of the solvent?

Perhaps reduce the pressure and reduce the distance from your airbrush to the subject?

  • Member since
    February 2011
  • From: Monterey Bay,CA-Fort Bragg, NC
Posted by randypandy831 on Thursday, September 22, 2011 8:44 PM

thanks for all the info everyone.

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  • Member since
    September 2011
Posted by Stone Dude on Thursday, September 22, 2011 7:27 PM

This is one of the reasons I love the Metalizers. They dry very quickly, but they are not durable. I wait 48 hours before doing anything with them; buffing, handling, washing, etc. Here, where it is warm(ish) year round, it dries on contact pretty much from a foot away. If doing a heavy wet coat, it dries within a minute or so.

If you do enough coats (5+), and wait long enough (72 hours +), you can wet sand with MicroMesh and polish to a mirror finish. It's more of a pain than Alclad, but you'll get similar results. Good to know if youre in a pinch.

 

 

  • Member since
    August 2011
  • From: Hayward, CA
Posted by GreenThumb on Thursday, September 22, 2011 6:20 PM

randypandy831

he was saying 20 pounds was to high to spray. i was saying i didn't have a problem spraying at 20 pounds. no overspray.

If over spray is not a problem then a higher psi is actually better as the paint atomizes better.

Shoot Metalizer straight from the bottle as thinning is not necessary.

Mike

 

 

  • Member since
    February 2011
  • From: Monterey Bay,CA-Fort Bragg, NC
Posted by randypandy831 on Thursday, September 22, 2011 5:32 PM

he was saying 20 pounds was to high to spray. i was saying i didn't have a problem spraying at 20 pounds. no overspray. the fast drying problem still lives on. if it keeps up i'll proble give hawk eye products a try. 

tamiya 1/48 P-47D $25 + shipping

tamiya 1/48 mosquito $20+ shipping

hobby boss 1/48 F-105G. wings and fuselage cut from sprue. $40+ shipping. 

  • Member since
    March 2006
  • From: Right Side of a Left State
Posted by Shellback on Thursday, September 22, 2011 4:37 PM

randypandy831

i tried thinned and unthinned with the same problem. spraying at 20 pounds wasn't a problem. worked fine. 

Ok , it was the same problem but it worked fine ? That sounds like no problem .

  • Member since
    August 2011
  • From: Hayward, CA
Posted by GreenThumb on Thursday, September 22, 2011 3:30 PM

HawkeyeHobbies

Its suppose to dry fast. But shooting it at 20 psi? Drop your pressure down to 12-15 psi, 20 is way too high.

That depends on the airbrush. A siphon-feed airbrush may need 20 psi to spray reliably.

Mike

 

 

  • Member since
    February 2011
  • From: Monterey Bay,CA-Fort Bragg, NC
Posted by randypandy831 on Thursday, September 22, 2011 3:21 PM

i tried thinned and unthinned with the same problem. spraying at 20 pounds wasn't a problem. worked fine. 

tamiya 1/48 P-47D $25 + shipping

tamiya 1/48 mosquito $20+ shipping

hobby boss 1/48 F-105G. wings and fuselage cut from sprue. $40+ shipping. 

  • Member since
    August 2006
  • From: Neenah, WI
Posted by HawkeyeHobbies on Thursday, September 22, 2011 10:25 AM

Its suppose to dry fast. But shooting it at 20 psi? Drop your pressure down to 12-15 psi, 20 is way too high.

Gerald "Hawkeye" Voigt

http://hawkeyes-squawkbox.com/

 

 

"Its not the workbench that makes the model, it is the modeler at the workbench."

  • Member since
    March 2006
  • From: Right Side of a Left State
Posted by Shellback on Wednesday, September 21, 2011 11:26 PM

As far as drying fast that is the characteristic of metalizer paints . I think its an advantage actually .

  • Member since
    February 2011
  • From: Bent River, IA
Posted by Reasoned on Wednesday, September 21, 2011 10:36 PM

I've used it a couple of times but in the rattle can.  It most certainly WILL dry fast if it is held too far away from target.  I found 6 inches or so works best and since it is a rattle can, I have to move the bugger quick!

Science is the pursiut of knowledge, faith is the pursuit of wisdom.  Peace be with you.

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  • Member since
    April 2009
  • From: Carmel, IN
Posted by deafpanzer on Wednesday, September 21, 2011 10:33 PM

Ditto  I didn't have any issue when I did it... it says 'Airbrushing Only' on my MM Metalizer bottles too.  Are there two different versions of MM Metalizers out there?

Andy

  • Member since
    January 2009
  • From: hamburg michigan
Posted by fermis on Wednesday, September 21, 2011 10:30 PM

 MM Metalizers are ready to go, right out of the bottle/jar. No thinning needed. Maybe that was the issue??? 

  • Member since
    February 2011
  • From: Monterey Bay,CA-Fort Bragg, NC
MM Metalizer
Posted by randypandy831 on Wednesday, September 21, 2011 9:08 PM

has any had any problems with it drying super fast when airbrushing? i was using my HP-CR at 20 PSI with their recommended thinner. its worse then spraying acrylics. 

 

thanks!

tamiya 1/48 P-47D $25 + shipping

tamiya 1/48 mosquito $20+ shipping

hobby boss 1/48 F-105G. wings and fuselage cut from sprue. $40+ shipping. 

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