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Never again will I use IPA

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  • From: Longmont, Colorado
Posted by Cadet Chuck on Friday, September 30, 2011 1:39 PM

Wonder if gin would work?  Or vodka?........

Gimme a pigfoot, and a bottle of beer...

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Posted by GreenThumb on Friday, September 30, 2011 1:28 PM

RESlusher

Yeah, I've always just used plain old rubbing alcohol with Tamiya paints.  Never had any problems.

 

Another thing to consider is brands of iso alcohol. I am sure some brands are better than others depending on how it was manufactured. That could equate to people having different results. I have noticed a difference with enamel spirits as well but I haven't used enamels in many years.

Mike

 

 

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Posted by RESlusher on Thursday, September 29, 2011 4:20 PM

Yeah, I've always just used plain old rubbing alcohol with Tamiya paints.  Never had any problems.

 

 

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Posted by amani on Thursday, September 29, 2011 4:14 PM

I totally agree. definitely not for long term storage. IPA looks like actually disintegrate the paint instead of thinning it. I tried to use it couple times, the paint spray out is not smooth. one 250ml last me couple years already, no reason to go cheap.

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  • From: Springfield, VA
Posted by vaw1975 on Tuesday, September 27, 2011 1:47 PM

I have often heard people say the X-20A is pretty much IPA with retarder. NOT so. On the bottle it clearly says it contains "n-propanol and butyl alcohol". IPA is isopropyl alcohol. I have never gotten better results than with X-20A. IPA simply dried way too fast.

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  • From: Paris, Texas
Posted by Michael B on Tuesday, September 27, 2011 11:31 AM

Wow!!  The only IPA I am familiar with is India Pale Ale and I think it's wonderful. Smile

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Posted by Alex Shaw on Tuesday, September 27, 2011 11:16 AM

El Taino

My sentiment is the opposite, when I started using Tamiya for the 1st time, I got their X-20. Then I started to use IPA with the same results, no better no worse. Then I felt like a sucker for paying that much for less with no benefit at all. This might be debatable, but dozens of builds later, I don't miss X-20 a bit. I just use my X-20 bottle for decanting the IPA. 2 cents

I second that.

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Posted by GreenThumb on Friday, September 23, 2011 11:54 AM

Phil_H

 GreenThumb:

I have always had good results using ethyl alcohol with Tamiya paints.

 

So have I, mostly, but it's not so good with Tamiya gloss acrylics. I have found that ethyl alcohol tends to make the paint dry with a flatter finish. When thinned with X-20A, it dries with a much better gloss though it's better again with Tamiya lacquer thinner.

Another advantage I have found when thinning Tamiya flat acrylics with ethyl alcohol is that you can run the paint super thin (much thinner than IPA or X-20A) and get smoother finishes and the paint will still "bite".

Here in Australia, ethyl alcohol (methylated spirits) runs to about $5.00 per litre, compared to $12.00 for 250ml of X-20A, and IPA is not much cheaper (than X-20A).

I have never used their gloss paints Phil. Thanks for that info.

Mike

 

 

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Posted by bondoman on Thursday, September 22, 2011 7:16 PM

GreenThumb

India Pale Ale? I didn't know it could be used as a thinner? Stick out tongue Wink Big Smile

Arrogant Bas tard!Toast

What's IPA?

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Posted by Phil_H on Thursday, September 22, 2011 7:10 PM

GreenThumb

I have always had good results using ethyl alcohol with Tamiya paints.

So have I, mostly, but it's not so good with Tamiya gloss acrylics. I have found that ethyl alcohol tends to make the paint dry with a flatter finish. When thinned with X-20A, it dries with a much better gloss though it's better again with Tamiya lacquer thinner.

Another advantage I have found when thinning Tamiya flat acrylics with ethyl alcohol is that you can run the paint super thin (much thinner than IPA or X-20A) and get smoother finishes and the paint will still "bite".

Here in Australia, ethyl alcohol (methylated spirits) runs to about $5.00 per litre, compared to $12.00 for 250ml of X-20A, and IPA is not much cheaper (than X-20A).

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  • From: Washington, DC
Posted by TomZ2 on Thursday, September 22, 2011 3:36 PM

International Phonetic Alphabet?

(yeah, well, IsoPropyl Alcohol)

Occasional factual, grammatical, or spelling variations are inherent to this thesis and should not be considered as defects, as they enhance the individuality and character of this document.

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Posted by randypandy831 on Thursday, September 22, 2011 3:19 PM

some people don't thin straight with IPA. they also add a retarder of some sort. i use IPA with a drop or two of liquitex flow aid.

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Posted by GreenThumb on Thursday, September 22, 2011 1:07 PM

I have always had good results using ethyl alcohol with Tamiya paints.

Mike

 

 

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Posted by El Taino on Thursday, September 22, 2011 11:42 AM

My sentiment is the opposite, when I started using Tamiya for the 1st time, I got their X-20. Then I started to use IPA with the same results, no better no worse. Then I felt like a sucker for paying that much for less with no benefit at all. This might be debatable, but dozens of builds later, I don't miss X-20 a bit. I just use my X-20 bottle for decanting the IPA. 2 cents

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  • From: Hayward, CA
Posted by GreenThumb on Thursday, September 22, 2011 11:23 AM

India Pale Ale? I didn't know it could be used as a thinner? Stick out tongue Wink Big Smile

Mike

 

 

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  • From: Democratic Peoples Republic of Illinois
Posted by Hercmech on Thursday, September 22, 2011 10:33 AM

X-20A does work well and so does the leveling thinnner by Guynze.


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Never again will I use IPA
Posted by vaw1975 on Thursday, September 22, 2011 8:39 AM

IPA was my only option for months since X-20A was not available. I just got some X-20A and used it for the forst time ever last night. Boy what a difference that made. The paint flows much better, and I get a much smoother surface. I can honestly not see how the $8 is too much since one uses only around 5-15 drops at a time and there's a whole cup in the bottle. It should last me many months. Sure IPA is cheaper but X-20A works better, and its cost is negligible, as long as one doesn't start cleaning with it.

V

(I'm a guy, despite the name)

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