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Thinning Floquil Gloss clear.... NEEED HELP

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Thinning Floquil Gloss clear.... NEEED HELP
Posted by Ben323 on Monday, October 10, 2011 2:30 PM

Hey Guys,

Do I have to thin Floquil Gloss clear?? If so with what?

Thanks, Ben k.

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Ben K.

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Posted by GreenThumb on Monday, October 10, 2011 7:04 PM

Yes, thin it with lacquer thinner.

 

 

Mike

 

 

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Posted by Ben323 on Monday, October 10, 2011 7:14 PM

Laquer thinner?

But its arcylic, couldn't I use regular alcohol?

Ben K.

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Posted by El Taino on Monday, October 10, 2011 7:53 PM

AFAIK, Floquil paints are enamel so yes, it could be thinned with Lacquer Thinner. If you are dealing with an Acrylic coat, then alcohol or distilled water can do it. If it was me, I'd go with distilled water although I always thin Testor acrylic paints with their 50496 Thinner.

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Posted by stymye on Monday, October 10, 2011 8:32 PM

it's always a great idea to stick with the brand  ( floquil / polyscale thinner.)

 Using thinners outside the system is a false economy,and often with inferior results.

a bottle of the thinner goes a long way if you use plain lacquer thinner to clean up with

 

 

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Posted by GreenThumb on Monday, October 10, 2011 8:57 PM

stymye

it's always a great idea to stick with the brand  ( floquil / polyscale thinner.)

 Using thinners outside the system is a false economy,and often with inferior results.

a bottle of the thinner goes a long way if you use plain lacquer thinner to clean up with

I disagree. The brand means nothing! Airbrush for as many years as some of us have and you will find that out.   Big Smile

Mike

 

 

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Posted by GreenThumb on Monday, October 10, 2011 8:59 PM

Ben323

Laquer thinner?

But its arcylic, couldn't I use regular alcohol?

Sorry, I was thinking of Gloss coat. Bang Head

If it is about as thin as milk then shoot it straight and see how it works on a scrap piece of plastic.

If it needs thinning try a 50/50 mix of 91% Iso alcohol and distilled water mixed.

Mike

 

 

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Posted by NervousEnergy on Tuesday, October 11, 2011 10:17 AM

You sure it's acrylic?  I've got a number of Floquil paints (mud, rust, grimy black, reefer white), and they're all enamel.  Polyscale is the acrylic line.  

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Posted by GreenThumb on Tuesday, October 11, 2011 11:43 AM

NervousEnergy

You sure it's acrylic?  I've got a number of Floquil paints (mud, rust, grimy black, reefer white), and they're all enamel.  Polyscale is the acrylic line.  

True. Now I am confused. Big Smile

If it is the standard railroad line of paints it is an enamel unless they have acrylics that I am not aware of.

This is the acrylic Polly Scale and when I have used it in the past I shot it without thinning as it is pretty thin.

Mike

 

 

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Posted by stymye on Tuesday, October 11, 2011 2:05 PM

not sure why I get backhanded for suggesting not to use laquer thinner..

last time I give any advice here

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Posted by GreenThumb on Tuesday, October 11, 2011 2:18 PM

stymye

not sure why I get backhanded for suggesting not to use laquer thinner..

last time I give any advice here

Who "backhanded" you? You are going to need thicker skin than that to survive this forum my friend. Wink

The problem was not whether or not to use the manufacturer's thinner as you recommended, it is whether or not the paint is acrylic or not. If it is then lacquer can be used but I think it's a waste of time. Why use acrylics if you are going to thin with a much more toxic thinner? If it is enamel I would use enamel spirits which work great and you can get a pint for what a small bottle of the manufacturer's product costs.

 

Mike

 

 

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Posted by stymye on Tuesday, October 11, 2011 2:42 PM

because there are so many types of "acrylics " and they are not all nice and clean safe fun for the whole family non toxic paints.

people seem to think acrylic means waterbased and think it's all the same.It sells product based on that assumption.. and thin them with every concoction known to man.

  there are a ton of different acrylics that require all manor of thinner to spray their best.. including laquer/enamel thinners.

I recommend for most newcomers to start with the name brand thinner ,, if they want to experiment beyond that   go for it .. but many of the manufactures thinners contain flow aids,reducers,extenders.. just cause something smells like lacquer doesn't mean that's all it is.

Acylic is a broad term ,, there are dozens of paints that  use acrylic for a binder,, but that's where the comparison ends.

what works for one brand  can react badly with annother

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Posted by Ben323 on Tuesday, October 11, 2011 2:47 PM

Big Smile

GreenThumb

 NervousEnergy:

You sure it's acrylic?  I've got a number of Floquil paints (mud, rust, grimy black, reefer white), and they're all enamel.  Polyscale is the acrylic line.  

 

True. Now I am confused. Big Smile

If it is the standard railroad line of paints it is an enamel unless they have acrylics that I am not aware of.

This is the acrylic Polly Scale and when I have used it in the past I shot it without thinning as it is pretty thin.

http://web4.hobbylinc.com/gr/flo/flof404100.jpg

Yep thats it, Sorry for the confusion... misread the labelsEmbarrassed

oops

But thanks for the response guys, much appreciated Big Smile

Ben K.

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Posted by stymye on Tuesday, October 11, 2011 3:04 PM

sorry for getting OT...my bad

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Posted by El Taino on Tuesday, October 11, 2011 3:08 PM

stymye

not sure why I get backhanded for suggesting not to use laquer thinner..

last time I give any advice here

I didn't see anyone backhanding you. I clearly understand your point and respect it, but withdrawing from giving advice around here is like leaving the place for not willing to accept other opinions/suggestions. That's the beauty of any community forum. We all, especially newcomers learn from different opinions and different opinions are very human in nature.

I use the native thinner for Model Master Acryl and PollyS, Universal Thinner from Testors for the little enamel I use, but I use off-the-shelf alcohol for Tamiya Paints. Like I said in another thread, I have yet to see better or worse results when using alcohol. And unless Tamiya specifies that there is some sort of magical ingredients (and I experience better results) in the X-20 thinner, I'll stick to .89 cents alcohol from Walmart.

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Posted by GreenThumb on Tuesday, October 11, 2011 3:34 PM

Actually Stymye's recommendation would be good for beginner to intermediate airbrush users who don't want to fuss over thinners that may or may not work.

I have always used a thinner that is compatible but not overpriced like the manufacturer's thinners and have always had great results. Then again, I have been airbrushing for about 20 years so my results may differ from the next guy as we all like to use what works for us.

Back to the original post, try the clear straight from the bottle and let us know how it works. Wink

Mike

 

 

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Posted by Ben323 on Tuesday, October 11, 2011 6:14 PM

GreenThumb

Actually Stymye's recommendation would be good for beginner to intermediate airbrush users who don't wanrt to fuss over thinners that may or may not work.

I have always used a thinner that is compatible but not overpriced like the manufacturer's thinners and have always had great results. Then again, I have been airbrushing for about 20 years so my results may differ from the next guy as we all like to use what works for us.

Back to the original post, try the clear straight from the bottle and let us know how it works. Wink

Will do Big Smile

Ben K.

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Posted by Ben323 on Wednesday, October 12, 2011 5:18 PM

IT WORKS !

Though after a while i had to add a little alcohol. But it worked fine.Big Smile

Ben K.

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Posted by GreenThumb on Wednesday, October 12, 2011 6:52 PM

Cool! Cool

Mike

 

 

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