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UPDATE ON WINTER CAMOUFLAGE FOR HEINKEL HE-111Z

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    June 2011
Posted by high and the mighty on Friday, October 21, 2011 4:38 PM

I thought so. Ill have to get my tech-knowledgable son to work on this. 

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  • From: Fort Worth, TX
Posted by RESlusher on Friday, October 21, 2011 1:50 PM

Sorry.  None of your pics are going to be visible.  You need to get an account on something like PhotoBucket or Flickr.  Those are web storage sites where you can put your pics then each pic has a URL that you cut and paste into the "Insert Media" dialog box.  Then we'll all be able to see 'em! 

:)

 

Richard S.

On the bench:  AFV Club M730A1 Chaparral

On deck:  Tamiya Marder 1A2

In the hole:  Who knows what's next!

 

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UPDATE ON WINTER CAMOUFLAGE FOR HEINKEL HE-111Z
Posted by high and the mighty on Friday, October 21, 2011 1:41 PM

As I noted here a couple of months ago, I was looking for back-up help re Luftwaffe winter camouflage for an HE-111Z, the double Heinkel intended to pull the giant German glider.  I bought the Hasegawa kit, whose box art and box photo of a finished model showed a scruffy white paint job on the upper surfaces. Instructions inside simply called for white painted over the standard RLM dark green and black green camouflage. 

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file://localhost/Users/johnmariani/Desktop/HEINKEL%20BOX%20PHOTO.jpg

file://localhost/Users/johnmariani/Desktop/HEINKEL%20BOX%20ART.jpg

At first I was concerned whether the HE-111Z ever really had winter camouflage after reading that it was intended to fly into Russia and bring out German troops after the siege of Stalingrad, but because runways of sufficient size were not available in Russia, the planes never did fly in; nor were they ready to do so until Jan 1943. It seems reasonable that the winter camouflage was applied for that aborted mission but I couldn't be sure. One reader in this forum posted two shots of an HE-111Z on a snowy runway and it definitely looked like it had been treated to white paint, though in a rather slapdash manner.  

file://localhost/Users/johnmariani/Desktop/He111z.jpg

Other research indicates that if winter camouflage was applied to Luftwaffe planes, it was indeed quick and slapdash, probably not sprayed on but swabbed on with brushes and probably mops of water-based paint over the green camouflage. This would show immediate patchiness and if the plane spent any time at all in winter weather, that water paint was going to wear badly and soon.  So I was prepared to use winter camouflage, but how to go about it? I experimented with a scrap Heinkel from earlier days, first simply spraying white over the green paint, which looked OK but not really worn (see photo of both planes below).

Then I dabbed blotches on with cotton balls., but these looked too pronounced.  Next I used the cotton ball technique directly on the green paint  (which incidentally seems like a good technique for the truly blotchy Japanese Army camouflage sometimes seen).

file://localhost/Users/johnmariani/Desktop/HE111Z%20CAMOUFLAGE.jpg

Next I lightly sprayed over that. I liked the results very much, so I went ahead with the technique on the new model, using a touch-up of white here and there with a stiff small paintbrush.  I  did not paint the canopy and glass framed parts because from what I could tell from photos, the Luftwaffe painters didn't bother.  I then put decals on and I'm delighted with the results.  Let me know what you think. 

file://localhost/Users/johnmariani/Desktop/HEINKEL%20TWO%20TOP.jpg
file://localhost/Users/johnmariani/Desktop/HEINKEL%20SIDE.jpg
file://localhost/Users/johnmariani/Desktop/HEINKEL%20TOP.jpg
file://localhost/Users/johnmariani/Desktop/HEINKEL%20FRONT.jpg

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