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Enamel or Acrylic Wash?
Posted by Compressorman on Sunday, July 8, 2012 8:25 AM

Hi Guys,

Particularly on aircraft, do most people basecoat  with acrylic paint and then do a wash with oil based paint. Or do most basecoat with enamel and then do an acrylic wash? Or does some of you do something entirely different?

Thanks,

Chris

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  • From: DFW, Texas
Posted by NervousEnergy on Sunday, July 8, 2012 10:15 AM

You'll find all sorts of approaches.  A lot of folks clearcoat with a gloss acrylic (Future, or a variety of other hobby specific acrylic gloss clears) over just about any kind of base paint job, and once it's fully dry use either oil or acrylic washes.  Cured Future is VERY tough.  Or clearcoat with a Lacquer product from Testors, Alclad, etc.  These go over most basecoats as well, even acrylic as long the base is fully cured and you're not just dumping the lacquer on there.  Then you're pretty much impervious to any kind of wash thinner except lacquer thinner.  Can't imagine a lacquer thinned wash, unless you're modeling a desert wreck eaten away by time and the elements.  ;-)

Oil washes get good press due to the great flow properties of heavily thinned oil paints, infinite color variety, and the slow drying time giving you plenty of time to work with it.  I personally prefer the clay based washes from Promodeller.  You get a huge amount of wash for your money, and the nature of the product makes aircraft panel line washes a snap since it doesn't require any sort of mixing or application skill.  It's clay based so it doesn't react with anything, so application is as simple as smearing it around where you want it and wiping it up everywhere it shouldn't be.  If you decide to give armor a try, though, or just want to do dot washes or filter washes then it may not work as well as more 'traditional' thinned oil or acrylic.  Those techniques seem to need a variety of colors.  No experience there.  The Flory Promodeller stuff is mainly for making things dirty.  :-)

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  • From: Twin Cities of Minnesota
Posted by Don Stauffer on Sunday, July 8, 2012 10:56 AM

I use enamels for both the paint and the washes.  To me, a wash is just a VERY thin paint.

Don Stauffer in Minnesota

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Posted by randypandy831 on Monday, July 9, 2012 8:00 PM

like don, i use enamels also. easy to clean up if you make mistakes.

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Posted by Wolfp on Tuesday, July 10, 2012 10:43 PM

I am a big fan of oils.  The tubes last forever as long as you keep the caps on them and they are easy to mix for different colors and tones.  Get some low odor mineral spirits in a big quart can and you will have enough to last for quite a while.  I especially like them because they have a fairly long working time and can be lifted easily with a soaked q-tip if they get into areas where I dont want them.

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Posted by Compressorman on Wednesday, July 11, 2012 7:34 PM

I too like oils, but have had a bad experience with them. Years ago I built armor models. I had just finished a nice Hetzer and painted it. I dont think that I let the enamel basecoat cure enough before applying a mineral spirits wash. But the wash really crazed my paint, in fact it was so bad that I just discarded the model. I was so dissapointed with it that I ended up not building another model for years. I am getting back into modeling now and just want to avoid a repeat of this if possible. This is why I am wanting to combine acrylic with enamel. I am curious to hear more about peoples experience with oil washes on enamel paint and how they avoid getting the dreaded paint cancer that I did on my little Hetzer.

Chris

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