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Sticking paint jar lids
Posted by Brownie on Friday, September 28, 2012 4:25 PM

Am getting very frustrated with lids of paint jars becomming almost impossible to open if paint drys inside!

Any tips on keeping the lids free and easy opening and closing??

Thanks in advance for info!

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Posted by Tankster on Friday, September 28, 2012 5:23 PM

If its a metal lid like Model Master, you can take a lighter and go around the the lid with the flame which will loosen it up.  I had to do that the other day.  

If the lid is plastic you can try holding it under hot water to loosen up the lid that way.  I know MM does sell a 'dried paint remover' but you really don't need it if you can get those 2 to work.

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Posted by DUSTER on Friday, September 28, 2012 5:56 PM

The hot water trick is good for any kind of lid.

Less chance of burning self  or model  (   as I learned a long time ago   )

Also, cleaning out the lid / threads with a paper towel and wiping off the jar top will help----IF you remember to do it...I don't, ever, but then I'm special-I guess.

Sometimes a delicate "touch of the wench" -actually, a pair of slip joint pliers (slipped to the large size) may be enough to persuade the lid; IF however, you find that you are gripping so  strongly that your face is turning a deep crimson and your eyes are bulging, it's OK to stop and try the hot water treatment.

So while you may feel your problem is unique to your bench; Don't, we all have that problem----At least I do ---

Good Luck  and don't let the paint dry in your brush or the glue get on your fingers...too often

 

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Posted by Dre on Friday, September 28, 2012 7:53 PM

I keep an adjustable wrench at the bench for such things and I wipe the threads clean every time I open a paint jar....  just don't squeeze so hard that you shatter the glass!

I'm convinced that MM paint jars are designed from the get-go to gunk up like that.

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Posted by TarnShip on Sunday, September 30, 2012 8:33 AM

for Model Master, use a different lid, then you don't have the problem to begin with

I put my LifeColor plastic lids on my Model Master paint jars, and use a phenolic lid on the LifeColor and Model Master/Floquil/PolyScale jars

search for vendors using  " 28-400 glass bottles " and you should get hits for the bottles, and then the accessories for each bottle size give you the lid choices,,,,,,  containerandpackaging.com is one source if you don't mind working with a minimum quantity

otherwise, you could just swap LifeColor and Model Master lids after they were cleaned, but, I have not used the MM lids on the LC bottles

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Posted by Don Stauffer on Sunday, September 30, 2012 11:12 AM

One neat thing about the little square bottles of Testors enamels is that you can always get the caps off!

I mounted a little piece of aluminum to the edge of my workbench with a little slot cut out- the width of the slot equal to the width of those bottles.  You can always grab a cap with a pair of pliers, but with a round bottle you cannot hold the bottle with another pair of pliers- it will turn if you apply much torque.  They shouldn't make round bottles!  Square, hex, oval- whatever- just not round.

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Posted by ACESES5 on Tuesday, October 2, 2012 7:07 PM

Try this several years ago my two daughters got me a set of strap werenches for fathers day, these things are a god send to remove stuck paint bottle caps try this.      ACESES5

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Posted by cml on Wednesday, October 3, 2012 4:32 AM

One way to get them off is to tip the jar upside down and then dab thinner down the rim, leave it for several minutes/hours then they should come off.

Obviously the easiest way to prevent is to always rub down the thread with some paper soaked in thinner before putting the lid back on.  

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Posted by Misty on Wednesday, October 3, 2012 6:51 AM

i hold it by the glass and smack the lid hard a couple of times on a piece of wood, the sharp tap makes it give just enough to open it. havent had one break (yet!!)  Clownthis may not be a good idea but i am an impatient bugger Embarrassed

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Posted by rob44 on Tuesday, September 3, 2013 3:03 PM

Use a thin swipe of vasaline on the threads when you are finished with a color. It works well.

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Posted by Chrisk-k on Tuesday, September 3, 2013 3:47 PM

I apply a tiny bit of beeswax on the threads of my Tamiya acrylics. It keeps the caps air-tight and prevent from sticking.

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Posted by f8sader on Tuesday, September 3, 2013 9:16 PM

Some good ideas folks!  It's hot water and pliers here.  Wiping the threads is a sure fire way to avoid getting a badly stuck cap.  Square paint bottles?  Do they still sell those?  I didn't want to date myself by admitting they were still part of my inventory Don!  Not sure about Vaseline though, what would be the effects of it getting mixed with the paint?  Model on!

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Posted by war613 on Tuesday, September 3, 2013 9:54 PM

I got this tip from FSM. Before closing a bottle, cut a piece of the shrink wrap the sprues come in a bit larger than the bottle opening. Place the plastic over the opening and close the lid. Bottles open easily unless you don't use the paint for many many days, you than use the hot water method if it does

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Posted by TarnShip on Thursday, September 5, 2013 1:36 PM

One small problem that can crop up with that old FSM tip.

If you put either plastic or aluminum foil over the paint jar, and then tighten the lid as tight as you should to form a seal,,,,,,,,,you have just created a "broach" for your plastic film.

You can end up with little discs that fall into the paint when you open the bottle.

If you don't seal it enough to cut the plastic,,,,,,,you let in air.

(I had to fish out the plastic and alumimum discs with tweezers from all the enamel MM paints I sent to a friend when I switched to Acrylics)

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Posted by Don Stauffer on Friday, September 6, 2013 9:35 AM

I use a lot of the Model Master stuff in the round bottles. Things like strap wrenches and other kinds of wrenches do not work well to hold the bottle, as the label goes almost all the way around, and the wrenches just tear off the label and  the bottle spins in the remnants of the label :-(

Don Stauffer in Minnesota

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Posted by TarnShip on Friday, September 6, 2013 10:50 AM

Don, I ran into that also.

Run a layer of clear tape around the bottle of paint when you get it. Both for grip and to help keep the labeling in case of thinner hitting the label.

Then, instead of straps or pliers,,,,,open the bottles with gloves with rough rubber grip palm/finger areas. Those work just exactly like those rubber discs intended to open jars in the kitchen.

Run either Vaseline or Chap Stick on your threads, and you don't get stuck lids with that jar of paint again. Put that on the bottle's threads, not the cap's. If you have old bottles with paint dried on the threads already, put wine corks in the bottles so you can have the bottle sealed while it lays on its side, allowing you to scrub the threads clean before you lube them.

Switch to the cone type of Phenolic lids,(exhaling into the jar),,,,,and you never get a dried out paint again.

Rex

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Posted by Texgunner on Friday, September 6, 2013 11:36 AM

Don Stauffer

I use a lot of the Model Master stuff in the round bottles. Things like strap wrenches and other kinds of wrenches do not work well to hold the bottle, as the label goes almost all the way around, and the wrenches just tear off the label and  the bottle spins in the remnants of the label :-(

I've used a pair of slip-joint pliers to get those stuck MM lids off.  It does play hell with the label but I don't mind; it's the paint inside that I need, not that label.  One caveat though-I have broken one or two of those MM bottle using that method too.  It seems there's a rather abrupt point reached with the plier pressure, lol.  Then, yes, time to buy more...[:D]


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Posted by Don Stauffer on Saturday, September 7, 2013 10:26 AM

Yeah, I have broken more than that.  They do break easily!

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Posted by panzerpilot on Saturday, September 7, 2013 10:34 AM

Vice Grips. There's a fine line between tight and broken bottle though! Or, turn the bottle upside down and dribble a little thinner along the cap line. Let it soak a bit.

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Posted by Reaper420 on Wednesday, October 2, 2013 2:50 AM

Hell yeah the squate bottles of the "old school" testors is still around!!! My number one source for them?  Wal-Mart baby!!! They are over in the toy section with all the plastic model kits (granted your walmart STILL sells plastic models!) All the places that used too dont anymore like CVS, Longs, Walgreens.  Also Michaels has them as well, along with plastic model kits too!! Anyway the jars of testors enamel can be had for about $1.25 each at walmart and about $2 @ Michaels.

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Posted by Don Stauffer on Wednesday, October 2, 2013 9:11 AM

I get my "square bottles" from Michaels, using their weekly discount coupons.  They are fine for basic colors like blacks and whites.  Their basic yellow in the small bottle works as a fine "Cub" yellow.  The paint in those jars is extremely similar to Model Master, just not such a wide selection of colors.  Oh, they also make a "flat aluminum" in the square bottle line :-)

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Posted by Jim Barton on Wednesday, October 2, 2013 6:08 PM

I've found out that stirring the paint, rather than shaking it, greatly reduces the potential for stuck lids. When I do run across paint on the rim of the jar, I grab a small piece of one of those "cheapo" foam make-up sponges you can find at some dollar stores in a bag and wipe the paint off the bottle right when I open it.

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Posted by ACESES5 on Wednesday, October 2, 2013 6:31 PM

Don: Put the strap wrench around the cap not the bottle.       ACESES5

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Posted by hkshooter on Sunday, October 6, 2013 12:34 PM

I simply got into the habit of cleaning out the bottle and cap threads before I replace the cap. Once this has been done I don't have to do it again, ever. The continual problem comes from shaking paint to mix it up. This coats the inside of the cap and creates the mess that needs cleaned up. I never shake my paints but instead use a Badger paint stirrer. If paint gets on the bottle edge for whatever reason I keep a paper towel handy and wipe it off before I replace the cap.

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