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Posted by Z Square 8 on Wednesday, February 27, 2013 11:44 AM

DoogsATX-

the Incredible White Masking from Hobby Lobby:

1. does this work well on Clear blisters and canopies (dipped in Future)?

2. is this brushed on by hand in thin coat with natural or synthetic brush?

I'm not having the normal patience/success with Scotch Blue so far and this may be a better option for me as I am working on a Revell/Monogram B-29. Looking at other options or should I try frog tape on the blisters and nose glass?

--Rich

Site builder of CooksonTributeB29.com 

  

G-J
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Posted by G-J on Thursday, January 17, 2013 9:24 AM

Thanks.

I'll have to give it a whirl on a spare canopy.  Tape, and me.........become a real mess.

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Posted by DoogsATX on Wednesday, January 16, 2013 3:03 PM

Sure could. BUT it's very hard to get it to behave in a controlled manner, so I imagine it'd be a failure at the frames. But as a fill mask? Certainly.

On the Bench: 1/32 Trumpeter P-47 | 1/32 Hasegawa Bf 109G | 1/144 Eduard MiG-21MF x2

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G-J
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Posted by G-J on Wednesday, January 16, 2013 2:59 PM

Are you saying that regular rubber cement can be used to mask canopies?

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Posted by DoogsATX on Wednesday, January 16, 2013 1:39 PM

I used it over Tamiya without incident...but yeah as with anything test to make sure it'll work without ruining your build!

On the Bench: 1/32 Trumpeter P-47 | 1/32 Hasegawa Bf 109G | 1/144 Eduard MiG-21MF x2

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Posted by Cadet Chuck on Wednesday, January 16, 2013 1:33 PM

"Incredible White Mask Liquid Frisket" also contains ammonia, along with latex, so I would be cautious about using it over acrylic.  Test first.

By the way, DoogsATX, you talked me into it.  I decided to splurge and bought a bottle today.  I have high hopes....

Gimme a pigfoot, and a bottle of beer...

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Posted by DoogsATX on Tuesday, January 15, 2013 1:17 PM

For big areas you can also use rubber cement. It's not very controllable though so I wouldn't use it to mask a hard camo line or anything like that.

On the Bench: 1/32 Trumpeter P-47 | 1/32 Hasegawa Bf 109G | 1/144 Eduard MiG-21MF x2

On Deck:  1/350 HMS Dreadnought

Blog/Completed Builds: doogsmodels.com

 

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Posted by DoogsATX on Tuesday, January 15, 2013 1:16 PM

A little goes a long way with it...and it's definitely one to use the perpetual 40% off coupon on...

On the Bench: 1/32 Trumpeter P-47 | 1/32 Hasegawa Bf 109G | 1/144 Eduard MiG-21MF x2

On Deck:  1/350 HMS Dreadnought

Blog/Completed Builds: doogsmodels.com

 

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  • From: Longmont, Colorado
Posted by Cadet Chuck on Tuesday, January 15, 2013 12:41 PM

I found the "Incredible White Mask Liquid Frisket" that DoogsATX recommended at Hobby Lobby today.  Sounds good and I trust his recommendation, but yikes, they want $15 for that little bottle.  As infrequently as I use liquid mask, I passed on it.  I'm going to test that "Tacky Glue" on a scrap part and see how well it works.  I'll let you know.  A big squeezable bottle costs only a few bucks.

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Posted by Phil_H on Monday, January 14, 2013 12:30 AM

That's one thing you need to watch if you're using acrylics. Some of the "name brand" masking agents eg Humbrol Maskol and Gunze "Mr Masking Sol Neo" are not friendly to acrylics and if applied too heavily, will eat the underlying paint for breakfast. They can be used successfully if applied in thin layers though.

Humbrol Maskol has a very strongly offensive odour but the Gunze product has no discernable odour at all.

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Posted by Watchmann on Sunday, January 13, 2013 10:21 PM

Texgunner

Matt, have you any experience with Ambroid liquid mask?

Gary

I sure haven't Gary, but I would like to.

I'm in need of some new stuff, since mine has dried up a bit.  I was looking in the art isle at the hobby center, and opened a bottle of cream colored stuff.  I took a whiff and it reeked of ammonia!  I doubt it would be good on acrylics.

m@

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Posted by montague on Saturday, January 12, 2013 1:06 AM

try Humbrol Maskol. It works great!

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Posted by Texgunner on Friday, January 11, 2013 9:48 PM

Matt, have you any experience with Ambroid liquid mask?

Gary


"All you mugs need to get busy building, and post pics!"

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Posted by Watchmann on Friday, January 11, 2013 8:34 PM

I've had similar experience with Micro Mask.  It came off my bare plastic canopy, but not off model master enamel.  I haven't tried it on acrylic paint.

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Posted by DoogsATX on Friday, January 11, 2013 7:26 PM
Because every single time I've used it, it hasn't come off, or at least not without levels of effort that damage the surrounding and underlying paint.

On the Bench: 1/32 Trumpeter P-47 | 1/32 Hasegawa Bf 109G | 1/144 Eduard MiG-21MF x2

On Deck:  1/350 HMS Dreadnought

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Posted by Alfonso12 on Friday, January 11, 2013 7:22 PM

Why do you HATE Micro Mask?

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  • From: Austin, TX
Posted by DoogsATX on Friday, January 11, 2013 3:14 PM

When I was building my 1/144 MiG-21s I needed a liquid mask to do the camoflage and so I went on a hunt (since I HATE Micro Mask with a passion). After much testing, I landed on this stuff (which you can find in the painting section at Hobby Lobby):

It's basically latex. Masks very well and comes up very easily without marring anything underneath. You don't have to soak it in water or scrub at it or pick at it. 

I will say that I'd advise rubbing it versus peeling it, since the stretching can cause any paint that's "on the line" to flake and fracture a bit when it goes all elastic.

After the results I got on the MiGs, this stuff is now my masking fluid of choice.

On the Bench: 1/32 Trumpeter P-47 | 1/32 Hasegawa Bf 109G | 1/144 Eduard MiG-21MF x2

On Deck:  1/350 HMS Dreadnought

Blog/Completed Builds: doogsmodels.com

 

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Posted by Cadet Chuck on Friday, January 11, 2013 1:31 PM

There is a product called "Tacky Glue" that looks like Elmer's but stays rubbery when it dries.  I haven't tried it as liquid mask, but I'll bet it would work fine.  Hobby Lobby sells it.

Gimme a pigfoot, and a bottle of beer...

G-J
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Posted by G-J on Friday, January 11, 2013 7:58 AM

Bearcat57
I find that plain old slightly diluted white glue works just as well and costs a lot less.

Could you describe that process?  That sounds interesting.

On the bench:  Tamyia Mosquito Mk. VI for the '44 group build.  Yes, still.

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Posted by mitsdude on Friday, January 11, 2013 2:59 AM

I've had good luck with a product called "FasMask". Its  baby blue and looks like a really thick Elmers glue.

$14 for a 16oz bottle. Way more than I will ever use.

I suspect it is closely related to white glue. Maybe something added to make it a bit more "rubbery"!

I found it with the remote control car supplies of a hobby shop, not in the model section.

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Posted by Bearcat57 on Friday, January 11, 2013 2:45 AM
I find that plain old slightly diluted white glue works just as well and costs a lot less.
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Best liquid masks?
Posted by Alfonso12 on Thursday, January 10, 2013 10:12 PM

I just purchased a bottle of Micro Mask (Microscale Industries) to mask out my model plane canopy frames before airbrushing. (still not done as waiting for new compressor) It was the only liquid mask available at my local model/hobby store. It seemed to brush on quite well but how does this one stack up to others? 

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