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Pre-shading a P-40B

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  • Member since
    April 2009
  • From: Longmont, Colorado
Pre-shading a P-40B
Posted by Cadet Chuck on Tuesday, January 22, 2013 10:56 AM

I have my P-40 built and primed with light gray Mr. Surfacer 1200.  I'd like to try some pre-shading but the technique is new to me, although I am an experienced modeler.  I'd like to paint some panels and maybe control surfaces with a different color undercoating, and would like to ask opinions of what colors to use. 

The final topcoat will be olive drab.  I want to get a subtle color variation in selected areas.  What colors would you use on top of the primer but underneath the final coat?  I was considering:

 

Black- (but would the contrast be too great?)

Brown

Silver

Red

Any recommendations would be appreciated.

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  • Member since
    June 2010
  • From: Austin, TX
Posted by DoogsATX on Tuesday, January 22, 2013 11:22 AM

Paint the whole thing black, then apply the olive drab heavily thinned, with a small needle/nozzle. Build up in the centers of panels, don't avoid but don't linger on panel lines, and don't worry about building up a uniform coat. When you find yourself thinking "just one more pass", STOP. Clear coats and markings will knock down the contrast so the whole coat will appear more uniform and blended than it looks on its own.

Here's the process in action on the HK B-25 I build last fall.

On the Bench: 1/32 Trumpeter P-47 | 1/32 Hasegawa Bf 109G | 1/144 Eduard MiG-21MF x2

On Deck:  1/350 HMS Dreadnought

Blog/Completed Builds: doogsmodels.com

 

  • Member since
    April 2009
  • From: Longmont, Colorado
Posted by Cadet Chuck on Tuesday, January 22, 2013 3:23 PM

Thanks, DoogsATX.  The proof is in your pictures, I am going to try your method!

Chuck

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  • Member since
    June 2010
  • From: Austin, TX
Posted by DoogsATX on Tuesday, January 22, 2013 3:28 PM

Glad to help out! I think the key, more than anything, is covering up the gray and starting from a darker base. When it's all dark, you're not as worried about covering up that contrast to the point that you blow it out and cover it up entirely.

On the Bench: 1/32 Trumpeter P-47 | 1/32 Hasegawa Bf 109G | 1/144 Eduard MiG-21MF x2

On Deck:  1/350 HMS Dreadnought

Blog/Completed Builds: doogsmodels.com

 

  • Member since
    April 2009
  • From: Longmont, Colorado
Posted by Cadet Chuck on Tuesday, January 22, 2013 3:32 PM

How about the bottom of the plane, which is to have a final coat of gray?  Black underneath that, too?  Seems to me that would be ok and accentuate the panel lines nicely.

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  • Member since
    June 2010
  • From: Austin, TX
Posted by DoogsATX on Tuesday, January 22, 2013 3:37 PM

Yep. The B-25 example there is NMF on the bottom so that doesn't quite hold up, but my teensy MiG-21s got the same treatment:

On the Bench: 1/32 Trumpeter P-47 | 1/32 Hasegawa Bf 109G | 1/144 Eduard MiG-21MF x2

On Deck:  1/350 HMS Dreadnought

Blog/Completed Builds: doogsmodels.com

 

  • Member since
    May 2006
  • From: Chapin, South Carolina
Posted by Shipwreck on Wednesday, January 23, 2013 7:14 AM

Mr. Doog do you have a preference for your dark/black paint? I am thinking about enamel, acrylic, gloss, or flat!

On the Bench:

Revell 1/96 USS Constitution - rigging

Revell 1/48 B-1B Lancer Prep and research

Trumpeter 1/350 USS Hornet CV-8 Prep and research

 

 

 

  • Member since
    November 2009
  • From: Twin Cities of Minnesota
Posted by Don Stauffer on Wednesday, January 23, 2013 9:37 AM

If you want panel to panel variation rather than variation between edges and centers of panels, you can use various shades of gray.  Then, make sure the OD is not applied too heavily and you will see the variations between panels.  You can mix various shades of gray by starting with a dark grey and add various amounts of white.  Do some panels with the full dark gray, add a little white, do some more panels, add more white, do some more, etc.

Don Stauffer in Minnesota

  • Member since
    June 2010
  • From: Austin, TX
Posted by DoogsATX on Wednesday, January 23, 2013 10:18 AM

You can also do tonal changes with different greens, browns and so on. A dark green under olive drab will bring out the green tones more, while brown will bring out the browns.

On the Bench: 1/32 Trumpeter P-47 | 1/32 Hasegawa Bf 109G | 1/144 Eduard MiG-21MF x2

On Deck:  1/350 HMS Dreadnought

Blog/Completed Builds: doogsmodels.com

 

  • Member since
    April 2009
  • From: Longmont, Colorado
Posted by Cadet Chuck on Wednesday, January 23, 2013 11:59 AM

So many choices, so little time!  Thanks, guys!

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