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Ideal single action airbrush
Posted by Chili on Tuesday, February 12, 2013 10:40 AM

I presently have a H+S Infinity Airbrush. I think I would like to get a "single action" airbrush comparible to the H+S in performance. I have been looking at the Iwata Revolution SAR. Any suggestions would be helpful.

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Posted by Hokey on Tuesday, February 12, 2013 11:57 AM

I'ma noob to airbrushing and own a Bagder dual action. I'm wondering why would "I" want a single action?

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Posted by Chili on Tuesday, February 12, 2013 2:21 PM

In the latest issue of FSM on airbrushing, they discuss the value of covering larger areas using a single action model. It got me to think about that. Perhaps I am misguided on this.

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Posted by Chrisk-k on Tuesday, February 12, 2013 2:33 PM

I'm shopping for a SA AB.  I have an Iwata Eclipse, which is an amazing DA AB.  

If you are going to use a SA AB for lots of different tasks, the Iwata SAR is the way to go.  You can't go wrong with Iwata IMO.  

I'll need a SA AB only for a task that doesn't require precision (priming, dull coating). So I'll prorably buy a Badger 350, which sells for under $40.

Iwata HP-CS | Iwata HP-CR | Iwata HP-M2 | H&S Evolution | Iwata Smart Jet + Sparmax Tank

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Posted by Plastic-surgeon on Tuesday, February 12, 2013 3:11 PM

I think any single action wil suffice, WITH adjustable nozzle, because you more or less can controll the amount of paint that is sprayed. I don't think that there is much difference in brands when it comes to spraying. I think for such a job even the Chinese cheap ones can do the job.

I have a Revell "standard class" which I use for clear coats, and I'm very content with it.

 

All that scrathing is making me itch!

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Posted by Don Stauffer on Wednesday, February 13, 2013 9:15 AM

I would recommend the Badger 200. It is bulletproof- I have had mine for about forty years, and the only replacement parts I have purchased are the teflon washers that seal the nozzle area.

As to why have a SA in addition to a DA, the SA is easier to disassemble and re-assemble for cleaning.  The 200 is a very simple brush. I use it as my workhorse for anything that does not need superfine lines or a super-thin coat.

Don Stauffer in Minnesota

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Posted by Chili on Wednesday, February 13, 2013 10:45 AM

Don,

On the Chicago Airbrush Supply website, they only list the Badger 200G, a gravity feed single action; no 200 model except for the 200NH, which some say to avoid... Would the 200G be suitable for my needs?

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Posted by Phil_H on Wednesday, February 13, 2013 9:02 PM

The 200G is, as noted, the gravity feed version. It has a smaller, fixed paint cup which may be an issue if you intend to use it for airbrushing large areas. (It may need more frequent refilling than the models with a larger paint jar.)

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Posted by Don Stauffer on Thursday, February 14, 2013 9:27 AM

Wow- I was not aware of the 200 siphon feed biting the dust.  Try checking Badger's own web site.

Don Stauffer in Minnesota

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Posted by Texgunner on Thursday, February 14, 2013 11:21 AM

The Paasche Model H is an old favorite.  How long has that AB been around?  60, 70 years?  It's the only airbrush I own and I've done 40 or more planes and two tanks with mine, in multi-color camo, natural metal finishes and solid colors too.  I have a lot of nerve damage and have very little "fine feeling" in my hands.  I have struggled to learn to use a Paasche Model V double-action AB, but it's really difficult for me to develop the feel for that double-action trigger.  Of course, ymmv.

Gary


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Posted by Tucohoward on Thursday, February 14, 2013 3:14 PM

Outside of an issue like Gary has I am not sure why you would need a single action. I use a double action with a .2 mm nozzle for virtually everything and I build 1/32 scale aircraft primarily. If I was painting a real plane I might want something bigger. I have a Badger 200 that I haven't used in probably 15 years, maybe 20.

Jay

The Mighty Mo says no.

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Posted by ACESES5 on Thursday, February 14, 2013 3:46 PM

Go with the Paasche H mines over 40 years old there rugged and hold up good you can get 3 different tip sizes. From very broad coverage to very narrow coverage. You will have better paint control than you would with a double action this is just my 2 cents.   ACESES5          2 cents         Smile Burger

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Posted by Bick on Thursday, February 14, 2013 5:20 PM

Chili

I presently have a H+S Infinity Airbrush. I think I would like to get a "single action" airbrush comparible to the H+S in performance. I have been looking at the Iwata Revolution SAR. Any suggestions would be helpful.

Hi Chili,

Why not just get the 0.4 or 0.6mm needle/nozzle for your Infinity and use the 'quickfix' handle to set the amount of paint. Then just press and pull as far as the trigger will go and spray - not truly single action but will sure give you the performance of the Infinity. The recommendations here are fine - Badger 200, Paasche H, Iwata SAR,  etc - but if you already have the Infinity that's what I'd do (did buy the 0.4mm for my Evolution but don't use it much).

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Posted by denstore on Thursday, February 14, 2013 5:25 PM

I'm with Tuco on this. There's no real advantage of getting a single action. Use the 0.4mm nozzle, or get a 0.6mm for the Infinity instead. It's not the action type that matters when you do large surfaces.

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Posted by keilau on Friday, February 15, 2013 6:53 AM

denstore

I'm with Tuco on this. There's no real advantage of getting a single action. Use the 0.4mm nozzle, or get a 0.6mm for the Infinity instead. It's not the action type that matters when you do large surfaces.

Changing nozzle is always too much a hassle even for the wonderful H&S nozzle design. Besides, their nozzle set is more expensive than most SA AB.

See my post at another thread for a cheap solution.

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Posted by flyinyak on Friday, February 15, 2013 5:28 PM

Paasche H owner here too. Quite reliable, easy to clean,  inexpensive.  

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Posted by montague on Sunday, February 17, 2013 12:55 AM

Paasche H.

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Posted by keilau on Sunday, February 17, 2013 7:52 AM

flyinyak

Paasche H owner here too. Quite reliable, easy to clean,  inexpensive.  

Paasche H owner too. I had one since the early 1980 and did not use it much for 20 years because I could not find an easy way to change color without taking it apart. Too much hassle for multiple color, regular use. YMMV. There are many happy H users on this forum.

Switch to Iwata Eclipse HP-CS 5 years ago and found the Iwata much easier to maintain and easier to learn from. I have purchased several more double action, internal mix airbrushes since, but always go back to the Iwata for most modeling.

If looking for board area general spraying, get a cheap plastic spray gun which does not need disassembly to clean. Just rinse cup and spray clean with thinner.

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Posted by Texgunner on Sunday, February 17, 2013 8:37 AM

keilau

flyinyak

Paasche H owner here too. Quite reliable, easy to clean,  inexpensive.  

Paasche H owner too. I had one since the early 1980 and did not use it much for 20 years because I could not find an easy way to change color without taking it apart. Too much hassle for multiple color, regular use. YMMV. There are many happy H users on this forum.

I've found that I don't need to disassemble the "needle and cone" (color adjusting parts) and air cap with each color change.  I will do that periodically, and usually before a coat of clear, but I simply run some appropriate thinner through the airbrush, then insert a thinner-moistened cotton bud into the recess of the needle and twist that around, removing any paint residue in there.  I then clean the paint cup and clean its feed-tube with a moistened pipe cleaner.  That's followed with a bit more clean thinner through the airbrush and I'm good for the next color.  Usually I do a complete break-down cleaning only once per build, but as you said, mileage will vary.  Whatever works best for each of us is the best route I'd say!

best regards, Gary


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