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  • Member since
    February 2011
  • From: Lismore NSW
Final topcoat failure
Posted by David80 on Monday, February 18, 2013 3:31 AM

I have recently finished building and painting a 72nd Spitfire and the top coat i applied has reacted with the finished paintwork.  Can someone please help!

I have used the Tamiya range of spray paints to provide the camouflage colours - AS10 (Ocean grey) underneath with AS11 (Medium sea grey) and AS30 (Dark Green) on the top surfaces.  I then applied Long Life Floor Polish (similar to future polish) before and after application of the decals, covering the whole model.  I then applied TS79 (semi gloss clear) as the final coat,  but it reacted with the AS11 in some areas, turning the finish an off white, faded look.  (the AS30 was also affected, but fortunately is hardly noticeable).

Why did this happen?  I thought the Tamiya spray range would compliment each other or are they incompatible (maybe the AS and TS range cannot be used together).  Wouldnt the polish protect the paint underneath?  I did notice that the propellor that I panted black (TS6) also reacted badly in the same way.

Also I use Long Life as I cannot source Future in Australia.  Is there anywhere on the internet that sells Future?

 

Can anyone help?

  • Member since
    August 2011
  • From: Fort Worth, TX
Posted by Centerdeck2 on Tuesday, February 19, 2013 10:57 PM

Cant help with the damage, but maybe this link can help with the future.

www.scjohnson.com.au/.../pledge_floor.htm

Shepherd Book once said to me, "If you can't do something smart, do something right." 

  • Member since
    August 2005
  • From: Sydney, Australia
Posted by Phil_H on Tuesday, February 19, 2013 11:21 PM

David80
I then applied TS79 (semi gloss clear) as the final coat,  but it reacted with the AS11 in some areas, turning the finish an off white, faded look.  (the AS30 was also affected, but fortunately is hardly noticeable).

I can think of a couple of possibilities.

1: You didn't shake the can enough. Especially with flat clearcoats, if the paint in the can has been sitting for a while and hasn't been thoroughly shaken, it can cause the paint which has been sprayed to carry an excessive amount of the flattening agent. This can result in a frosted appearance when the paint dries. Shake the can well, for at least 5 minutes. To improve the paint flow, you can place the can in warm (not too hot that you can't put your hand in it comfortably) water for a few minutes (and shake again) before spraying.

2: You applied the flat coat too heavily and there has been a build-up of the flattening agent. Apply light mist coats and build the depth gradually.

In either case, if the thickness of the paint hasn't obscured surface details, you may be able to fix the frosted appearance by applying another coat of clear gloss, then follow the steps above when you apply your flat coat.

 

  • Member since
    February 2011
  • From: Lismore NSW
Posted by David80 on Thursday, February 21, 2013 5:27 AM

You may be right with the heavy coats and not shaking the can.  I was thinking of respraying the affected areas and then applying a top coat, but maybe if the clear gloss gets rid of the frosting it would be a lot easier!

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