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First time with Mr Surfacer

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First time with Mr Surfacer
Posted by PeteG on Thursday, February 21, 2013 5:10 AM

Hello-

I intro'd myself in the new members section a month or two ago and continue to move at a snail's pace on a Revell TBD-1 Devastator. I'm returning to the hobby after almost 20 years of child-rearing (they finally figured out where the food is) and am cutting my teeth on this kit. It will not be anything close to an award winner, but it's not supposed to be.

Anyways, I've read about Mr Surfacer primers and am awaiting a delivery of all 3 types (500, 1000, 1200). This weekend or next I should be able to prime the Devastator. But never having used this product before, I'd like to hear form people who have. I'm mainly concerned with what I should thin it with before airbrushing it on and whether or not I apply all three sequentially or just pick one. I've also read that it needs to be polished before final paint (which will be MM acrylic). Any thoughts on that?

Any help and feedback is greatly appreciated.

Thanks,
Pete
Buffalo, NY 

Pete Gottfried
Buffalo, NY 

 

  • Member since
    January 2012
  • From: Hatfield
Posted by Misty on Thursday, February 21, 2013 5:13 AM

i advise using their own mr leveling thinner, remember its laquer based if you wan tto try something else.

id use the 1200 for priming and maybe the 1000 if its in a rattle can  the jar stuff i use for filling in small cracks or slowly building up joints to a smooth finish.

jar stuff can be thinned for airbrushing but hav enever tried it

  • Member since
    March 2010
  • From: MN
Posted by Nathan T on Thursday, February 21, 2013 11:15 AM

the Jar MR. surfacer 1200 is my only primer. It works fantasticly in the airbrush when I thin it with Mr. leveling thinner. I usually thin it 1 part paint to 2 or 2.5 parts thinner. This stuff likes lots of thinner to go down smooth. Otherwise it will spider web and go on rough like, which is fine after wet sanding it away. When its that thin I find it takes 3/4 coats on the model to cover. When I'm done I clean up my airbrush with cheaper hardware store laquer thinner.

 

 

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  • From: Austin, TX
Posted by DoogsATX on Thursday, February 21, 2013 11:22 AM

What Nathan T said.

Also, Mr. Surfacer really benefits from a wet sanding with a fine-grit sandpaper (1000 or 1600 and up). It'll go from a good primer coat to glass smooth.

On the Bench: 1/32 Trumpeter P-47 | 1/32 Hasegawa Bf 109G | 1/144 Eduard MiG-21MF x2

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  • Member since
    December 2012
Posted by PeteG on Thursday, February 21, 2013 7:14 PM

Thanks for all the help thus far. Now two more questions:

-Thin exclusively with Mr. Thinner? Regular lacquer thinner won't cut it?

-Supplier? Squadron and Sprue are out of stock. Ebay sellers are overseas. Is that my only option?

Again, thanks so much.

Pete Gottfried
Buffalo, NY 

 

  • Member since
    June 2010
  • From: Austin, TX
Posted by DoogsATX on Thursday, February 21, 2013 9:36 PM
You can also use Tamiya's lacquer thinner

On the Bench: 1/32 Trumpeter P-47 | 1/32 Hasegawa Bf 109G | 1/144 Eduard MiG-21MF x2

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  • From: MN
Posted by Nathan T on Thursday, February 21, 2013 10:21 PM

There was just a thread here a few min. ago about Mr. surfacer where art though? Had some good sites in the states for it.

 

 

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    December 2012
Posted by PeteG on Friday, February 22, 2013 4:53 AM

Thanks again. The primer arrived yesterday. My local has the Tamiya thinner. I'll post results when the priming is done. Hopefully in this lifetime.

Pete Gottfried
Buffalo, NY 

 

  • Member since
    March 2010
  • From: MN
Posted by Nathan T on Friday, February 22, 2013 8:53 AM

Just be sure its the Tamiya Yellow cap thinnner (laquer) not the white cap(acrylic).

 

 

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Posted by PeteG on Sunday, April 7, 2013 2:05 PM

Spent yesterday and today priming, wet sanding and repriming the Hasegawa P-51 I'm building (first build in about 19 years). I used the 1200 thinned 2.5 to 1. It worked great! I'm really happy with the results I got and will now do a light wet sanding with some 1600 grit sandpaper to get the glass like finish that was discussed. Thanks for all the help.

Pete Gottfried
Buffalo, NY 

 

  • Member since
    March 2010
  • From: MN
Posted by Nathan T on Sunday, April 7, 2013 7:07 PM

Glad your getting one with it!

 

 

  • Member since
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  • From: DFW, Texas
Posted by NervousEnergy on Friday, April 12, 2013 9:40 AM

I love Mr Surfacer and have had great luck with it so far, but keep in mind you don't really need to use a heavyweight primer like that unless you're spraying some fairly caustic paint or need to fill in a scratchy model surface.  And there are very few paints made for modeling that are really that nasty.  Even Mr Color (a somewhat lacquer based paint...kinda...) isn't going to melt your model if you spray it directly.  Alclad *might*, though I've heard many anecdotal tales of it spraying just fine onto bare plastic.  I love it under alclad due to the scratch-filling and how smooth you can get it for a high-shine finish.

If you just want to normalize the color base for the model you're working on prior to painting or pre-shading, you can use just about anything.  Ditto with priming for low-bite acrylics to give them a bit more toughness.

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