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Turpentine and lacquer thinner

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    April 2013
Posted by minimagneto on Wednesday, October 9, 2013 8:34 AM

Idiot question, Don:

You use Turpentine to thin paints? Lacquers only or enamels too?  I didn't know you could do that...I keep turpentine in the the workshop but only use it for cleaning...

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  • From: Twin Cities of Minnesota
Posted by Don Stauffer on Tuesday, October 8, 2013 9:13 AM

There are two kinds of dope for model airplanes, Nitrate and Butyrate.  The Butyrate kit was developed for flying models with engines when they went from ignition to glow plug.  Glow fuel eats into nitrate dope.  The butyrate does smell different.  But, they still make both kinds of dope.  There are still quite a few stick and tissue kits being made, and folks who build them.  

Some folks who intend to fly them build them without landing gear, as that is the stuff that frequently gets wiped out in a landing, unless the LG are wire and well integrated into the structure.

Don Stauffer in Minnesota

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  • From: Longmont, Colorado
Posted by Cadet Chuck on Monday, October 7, 2013 5:54 PM

Do they still make airplane dope?  Haven't used it since I was a kid, but yes, it smelled good!  I built a lot of balsa / tissue models then, but never had the guts to try to fly one!  Too much work went into them to watch them get wiped out on the first landing.

Gimme a pigfoot, and a bottle of beer...

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  • From: Hatfield
Posted by Misty on Monday, October 7, 2013 5:03 AM

Naughty boy, Don. just as well i am old enough and responsible enough not to buy a jar of dope just to find out.....

My dad used to take me to work so my childhood smells are parafin and trefolex cutting compound. not as nice as laquer thinners but safer.

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  • From: Twin Cities of Minnesota
Posted by Don Stauffer on Sunday, October 6, 2013 11:29 AM

I think dope (the aircraft finish, not the stuff you take to get high) smells even better than lacquer. I was a hanger brat- my dad's idea of quality time with me was to take me to the airport while he hanger-flew with his buddies.  So the earliest smells I can remember are aircraft dope and hydraulic fluid.  Then, for many years I built only flying models, with doped tissue.  So I still love the smell of aircraft dope.  But then I discovered I could build shelf scale models and never need to worry about whether I'd get good enough weather to fly them :-)

Don Stauffer in Minnesota

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Posted by Texgunner on Saturday, October 5, 2013 6:28 PM

Lacquer thinner is a very hot solvent.  Use it carefully and judiciously.   Professional painters know that.  amhik.Wink


"All you mugs need to get busy building, and post pics!"

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    January 2012
  • From: Hatfield
Posted by Misty on Saturday, October 5, 2013 5:49 PM

shame..... lacquer thinners smells soooooo nice, but just look what it can do to paint and plastic alike, i dont wan that happening to my lungs.

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    November 2006
Posted by Bearcat57 on Saturday, October 5, 2013 5:06 PM
good to know, Don..thanks for passing that on to us. When I was younger and dummer I couldn't be bothered worrying about such things. The older I get, the more I do!
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    November 2009
  • From: Twin Cities of Minnesota
Turpentine and lacquer thinner
Posted by Don Stauffer on Saturday, October 5, 2013 3:25 PM

There have been discussions here on the dangers of thinners used with various paints. I know that a lot of folks like to use acrylics because isopropyl alcohol is supposed to be much safer than turpentine or lacquer thinners.  I decided to look up just how dangerous the later two substances are.

Turpentine has been used for centuries. In the middle ages it was used as a medicine, both internal and external. Internal is NOT a good idea, we know now- it can cause kidney damage.  Don't drink it! As far as the vapors, Vicks vapo-rub still uses it as the active ingredient. In high concentrations it is not good for lungs and air passages, but those are really high concentrations. It is not believed to be a carcinogen, unlike many other organic solvents.

Acetone (active ingredient in many lacquer thinners) seems to be more dangerous. It is flammable at much lower concentrations, and is more dangerous to inhale.

So I guess I will continue to use  turpentine frequently, and continue to occasionally use some lacquer thinner, but only rarely.

Don Stauffer in Minnesota

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