Ugrading my airbrushes!

QUOTE: Originally posted by MadModelFactory Mike. Thanks, for the warning about the oil. Will check with my LHs on what they say I should use.

Anytime my friend.

It's silly to charge so much for just a highly-refined oil isn't it?
Don't buy cheap oils though as you will be sorry as this photo on Silentaire's web site shows.
http://www.silentaircompressor.com/oil.htm

There is nobody else who makes these kind of specialty oils besides these manufacturers of silent compressors, so they basically can charge whatever the market will tolerate.

Mike

Mike.

Thanks, for the warning about the oil.

Will check with my LHs on what they say I should use.

MMF,

Sounds like you will have a nice, quiet air supply with that baby.

The oil is outrageously priced for Jun-Air compressors here.
I called a place down in the San Diego area about it when I bought my compressor and they wanted $32 a quart for Jun-Air compressor oil. [:0]
I went and ordered two bottles of Silentaire's compressor oil from Dixie Art instead. The Silentaire oil is supposed to be as good as you can get, although Jun-Air warned me not to use another company's oil. I am sure that is just because they wanted me to buy theirs though.

Mike

QUOTE: Originally posted by MikeV I have heard it argued that Jun-Air is possibly the best made silent compressors you can buy. Mike

I have heard the same, a similar compressor to the 517(nicknamed the "red apple" because of it's colour) I see often in pics of the workbenches of the professionals over here.

So I think I will dig out the ol' plastic card and get one, might only be in a month or two though want to save more discount coupons from the shop.

FYI, most of the compressors here are sold as compressor + airbrush sets in the HS.

QUOTE: Originally posted by MadModelFactory I don't know if they are made under licence here or simply imported & sold under the Wave label. Wave always used to sell quiet a few Junair compressors, I know that they are the importer for a few lines so it can be that they got permission to sell them under their own name. Looks like a decent Compressor regardles of whose name is on the sticker.

Thanks MMF.

I have a Jun-Air myself that I bought used from a guy that had it on Ebay.
I paid $200 US for it and I love it. I have heard it argued that Jun-Air is possibly the best made silent compressors you can buy.

Mike

QUOTE: Originally posted by MikeV MMF, Is this compressor produced in Japan? That is a Jun-Air compressor without a doubt and they are made in Denmark. Mike

I don't know if they are made under licence here or simply imported & sold under the Wave label.

Wave always used to sell quiet a few Junair compressors, I know that they are the importer for a few lines so it can be that they got permission to sell them under their own name.

Looks like a decent Compressor regardles of whose name is on the sticker.

QUOTE: Originally posted by MadModelFactory [br Pic below of the 517:

MMF,

Is this compressor produced in Japan?
That is a Jun-Air compressor without a doubt and they are made in Denmark.

Mike

QUOTE: Originally posted by J-Hulk I'm curious; why did your friends advise against the Tamiya HG Trigger? Just the geometry of it? I find it very comfortable and very easy to use, especially for extended sessions (just like the Tamiya adverts say!).

Mostly for accuracy and similar, they like me do a lot of large scale figures and think that trigger airbrushes are not as accurate for small detail as the standard ones for painting small detail.

I am sure that once you are used to the Trigger you could achieve very similar results, but I do think that the leraning curve with a Trigger AB would be a bit steeper.

I do like those compressors with the roll bar cages! That's a sweet one, for sure.

I'm curious; why did your friends advise against the Tamiya HG Trigger? Just the geometry of it? I find it very comfortable and very easy to use, especially for extended sessions (just like the Tamiya adverts say!).

QUOTE: Originally posted by J-Hulk Nope, I have no adapter of any kind. The Revo is ready to go right out of the box. The cheaper Spray-Work compressor is powered by a 7.2 volt nicad rechargeable battery and uses a separate AC adaptor. Is that what you're thinking about?

Yup, my bad. Just verified what the Revo actually is, don't see many of tham around here.

QUOTE: I got the trigger 'n' grip version of the Tamiya AB due to my large hands! The HG Trigger is a very comfortable handpiece for me.

Never tried the trigger one, msot of my friends advised against it.

QUOTE: PS: Saw the Wave 217 compressor going for 12,000 yen in a few ads in HJ.

Can believe it, not a bad compressor at all. But I think I rather splash out a bit more now and get a compressor that will be with me for a long time.

Pic below of the 517:

QUOTE: Originally posted by MadModelFactory I guess you got the mains adapter for it, not a bad compressor at all. I use their single action airbrush for priming. My Tamiya airbrush is the same as yours sans the trigger & Grip.

Nope, I have no adapter of any kind. The Revo is ready to go right out of the box.
The cheaper Spray-Work compressor is powered by a 7.2 volt nicad rechargeable battery and uses a separate AC adaptor. Is that what you're thinking about?

I got the trigger 'n' grip version of the Tamiya AB due to my large hands! The HG Trigger is a very comfortable handpiece for me.

And thanks for the equipment reviews!

PS: Saw the Wave 217 compressor going for 12,000 yen in a few ads in HJ.

QUOTE: Originally posted by roosterfish I kinda wish my 21 year old Iwata would break so I could get a pretty Wave!

Wave/Be-J are working on getting their international mail order website up and going.

When I went to pick up the Advance I met a friend of mine who produces garage-kits, he was busy lugging 2 17ltr cans (A+B component) of resin for casting to the till.

QUOTE: Originally posted by J-Hulk OK, here goes: A good ol' Tamiya Revo! It rocks! No water filter...no regulator...no nothing. Completely no-frills!

I guess you got the mains adapter for it, not a bad compressor at all. I use their single action airbrush for priming. My Tamiya airbrush is the same as yours sans the trigger & Grip.

QUOTE: How's the Wave 217? I see some good prices for it in Hobby Japan.

Best price I have seen for it down here is 17.800Yen - 10% shop discount.

Only got the Advance airbrush today(getting the Advance 02 later/ 5000Yen discount voucher will be used), but talked to the guy a lot about airbrushes and compressors. For me he does not recommend the 217 (too underpowered only pushes 17l per minute and max usage time of 15 min/overheating) same as the Iwata one which I think it is a copy of.

The 217 also is a very similar to the compresor I got now(nearly identical) and I want to get a better one.

Had a look at their Air-tex for 25.000Yen. and another compressor for 57.000Yen.

But I think I am sold on the Wave 517 (85.000Yen) which looks like a Junair copy.

As for the Wave Advance:

A world of difference to my current Wave AB better balanced, nicer weight, easier to adjust. Comes with a lined plastic case, 2 needle covers, teflon o-ring and a small but comprehensive leaflet on usage and cleaning.

Haven't used it yet, but just by handling it you can feel the difference.

I kinda wish my 21 year old Iwata would break so I could get a pretty Wave!

Are you sitting down?

OK, here goes:
A good ol' Tamiya Revo!
It rocks!
No water filter...no regulator...no nothing. Completely no-frills!

And I love it! It does absolutely everything I ask it to do. I've checked out some of the other new-fangled top-notch puffers with all the bells and whistles, but until the day my li'l Revo can't muster for roll call, I'm staying with it.

How's the Wave 217? I see some good prices for it in Hobby Japan.

J-Hulk.

Just out of curiosity what compressor are you using?

Looks like your updated set-up's a winner, MMF!
Been thinking about Tamiya's spraybooth...this old "Hikkoshi no Sakai" box of mine has seen better days!

QUOTE: Originally posted by plasticmod992 MadModelFactory, What do you model? I'd like to see some of your work!

At the moment not much at all, too busy to really get stuck into anything seriously.

When I got time I prefer to build Motorbike Models, Anime Resin Kits, Robot Models
but will build anything that strikes my fancy too (Tanks, Planes, Cars, Shios, Scratchbuild, etc).

Got a move to the new Apartment coming up in a few months and trying to sort out all the current rubbish, decide on new furniture, etc new place will have a dedicated modelling corner(using dining table now) as well as a roof terrace for larger projects.

Limited shelf space means I build but don't keep most of what I build (not a collector anyway).
After the move I will finish the Website and uplaod some images of my finished work there.

MadModelFactory,

What do you model? I'd like to see some of your work!

Iwata just came out with their High Performance "Plus" line that looks just like these Wave brushes, right down to the Micro Air Control under the color cup. I'm almost certain these are Wave's Iwata equivelents. I like the Waves curves alot better though!

roosterfish.

I am pretty sure that Wave gets their airbrushes manufactured at the Factory, same thing with Tamiya and Gunze Airbrushes.
Wave is a japanese Model/Garage-kit company that also sell their own range of tools, resins, etc.

Nozzles are 0.3mm for the "Advance" and 0.2mm for the "Advance 02", most airbrushes I have seen over here use either a 0.3m or a 0.2mm

Boy, that sure is a pretty airbrush. The main body seriously reminds me of an Iwata Revolution HP-CR. The air input looks right, the bowl angle is correct and the control lever is dead on. The nose piece is right and it looks like an Iwata crown cap would fit. The paint cap on the Wave is a dead ringer for an HP-CR Iwata cap. I wouldn't be surprised if it said Japan on the left side of the brush. Does it come with a 0.5 mm needle/nozzle like the HP-CR does?

I am picking up the new brushes tomorrow evening on the way home:

Here is what they look like:

Wave Advance:


Wave Advance 02:


Not sure what the overseas equivalent is for them though. Both use an S-type connector.

QUOTE: Originally posted by unnamedplayer selling the tamiya one?

If any good offers come along I am willing to talk.
The Wave and Tamiya are nearly identical(Tamiya has a removeable Cup)

E-Mail me.

selling the tamiya one?