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Brush Painting Quandary

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  • Member since
    March 2010
  • From: MN
Posted by Nathan T on Monday, December 16, 2013 7:22 PM

Don't brush on your primer if you can help it. Use a spray can if you don't have an airbrush.

 

 

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    April 2009
  • From: Draper, Utah
Posted by bushman32 on Monday, December 16, 2013 7:15 PM

Just prior to painting I wash my plastic again with Testor's Plastic Prep, while wearing powder free latex gloves. This removes oils (from your hands), sanding dust, etc., from handling.

Ron Wilkinson

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    December 2010
Posted by wolfgang53 on Sunday, December 15, 2013 11:36 PM

Hi,  I'm not sure.  I started a new model, after washing it with dish soap, rinsing and air drying.  I used Floquil paints so far and at least the paint doesn't peel off with the brush strokes.  I still need at least 3 coats of paint to cover with an even coat.  I don't get it.  I'm going to try primer on the next one.  Unfortunately, I don't have a convenient place to spray.  I'm sure I'll figure something out that won't upset my wife too much.

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    April 2009
  • From: Draper, Utah
Posted by bushman32 on Sunday, December 15, 2013 8:22 PM

Wolfgang,

  Did you ever find a solution to this? Since I have never experienced this myself I couldn't add any more ideas.

Ron Wilkinson

  • Member since
    November 2009
  • From: Twin Cities of Minnesota
Posted by Don Stauffer on Monday, December 9, 2013 8:50 AM

Some primers come in jars or cans and can be brush painted. Personally I like rattle can primer.

Don Stauffer in Minnesota

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    October 2008
  • From: England
Posted by P mitch on Monday, December 9, 2013 5:12 AM

Had a thought and its something we haven't spoken about yet, how do you clean your brushes?

Phil

"If anybody ever tells you anything about an aeroplane which is so bloody complicated you can't understand it, take it from me: it's all balls." R J Mitchell


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    November 2003
  • From: State of Mississippi. State motto: Virtute et armis (By valor and arms)
Posted by mississippivol on Sunday, December 8, 2013 8:15 PM

It just hasn't been the same since they took the lead out....

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Posted by mitsdude on Sunday, December 8, 2013 7:42 PM

What brand of paints are you using?

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    December 2010
Posted by wolfgang53 on Sunday, December 8, 2013 4:28 PM

Gremlins, right wingers, commie pinkos, aliens or the CIA.  It's so hard to tell.  I'll have to set up some close surveillance..  Thanks to all for your suggestions.

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    October 2008
  • From: England
Posted by P mitch on Sunday, December 8, 2013 2:35 PM

You can get primer in a can Tamiya make a good one which will work fine for you.

Just as a final idea when you wash the kit do you also run it under clean water to clear away any possible problem. Other than that I think we can all agree the gremils are after you!Devil

Phil  

"If anybody ever tells you anything about an aeroplane which is so bloody complicated you can't understand it, take it from me: it's all balls." R J Mitchell


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    November 2006
Posted by Bearcat57 on Sunday, December 8, 2013 12:35 PM
It sounds as though you may be the victim of a vast right wing conspiracy
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Posted by wolfgang53 on Sunday, December 8, 2013 12:16 PM

I can't think of any contaminants on the models.  The room temperature is around 70 degrees.  I mix the paint with one of those battery powered mixing gizmos.  I don't try to put on a thick coat, although that's what I seem to end up with.  Does primer come in brushable form?  If I have to put on two coats any way, one may as well be primer.

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    November 2009
  • From: Twin Cities of Minnesota
Posted by Don Stauffer on Sunday, December 8, 2013 11:18 AM

Is there any possibility of some contamination in your work area?  One contaminant is silicone.  Waxes, lubricating sprays and such contain silicone.  Get that stuff on your plastic and paint will not stick.  Some waxes, and soaps will act in a similar way but not as bad.

Don Stauffer in Minnesota

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    October 2008
  • From: England
Posted by P mitch on Sunday, December 8, 2013 4:31 AM

This does sound interesting and weird. Firstly primer as Focusone suggests. Second is it a very thick coat your putting on? Third is it very cold where you are (cold temperatures can affect paint). Fourth are you mixing the paint fully and which paints are you using?

Phil

"If anybody ever tells you anything about an aeroplane which is so bloody complicated you can't understand it, take it from me: it's all balls." R J Mitchell


  • Member since
    December 2010
Posted by wolfgang53 on Sunday, December 8, 2013 2:15 AM

So far this has happened on 5 different models from 4 different manufacturers.  The paint comes off while applying the first coat.The second coat goes on without a problem, but the finish is anything but smooth.  It seems to clump in different areas.  

  • Member since
    November 2013
Posted by FocusOne on Sunday, December 8, 2013 12:59 AM

If it's just this kit it's possible the plastic's defective.  I've heard of this problem before for kits that were deemed defective (same technique but paint won't stick)

See if primer helps it.

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    November 2003
  • From: State of Mississippi. State motto: Virtute et armis (By valor and arms)
Posted by mississippivol on Saturday, December 7, 2013 10:23 PM

Is it starting to come off when you apply a second coat? If so, the paint probably hasn't fully cured before applying the next one, and it will lift the paint up. I've had that happen before.

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  • From: Sonora Desert
Posted by stikpusher on Saturday, December 7, 2013 10:16 PM

Is this happening in only one case or more than once now?

 

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Brush Painting Quandary
Posted by wolfgang53 on Saturday, December 7, 2013 8:58 PM

Greetings,  I'm getting back into building armor models and have run into a problem I've never encountered before.  I've washed models, not washed models, used both acrylics and enamels and the paint will not adhere to the plastic.  A brush stroke will just lift the paint off the model.  I've used new paints and old paints.  I've tried thinning the paint.  I've tried different brushes... Nothing makes a difference.  I have not tried priming, but I've never done that on previous builds.  Any thoughts on the mater will be greatly appreciated.  Thanks in advance.

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