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Tell me about the Iwata Eclipse HP-CS airbrush

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  • Member since
    January 2014
Tell me about the Iwata Eclipse HP-CS airbrush
Posted by JayF on Wednesday, April 16, 2014 11:48 AM

Hi

I have some money to invest in my first "real" airbrush and I'm considering buying the Iwata Eclipse HP-CS

(technically this won't be my first airbrush as I have a cheap copy of a Harbor Freight Single Action, bought 8$ at a toy store, that basically shoots paint and that's about it).

My compressor is a 2 gallons 1/3 HP oil-less hardware-store thing that can go up to 90 PSI.

So, is this airbrush is newbie friendly ? Is it good for most normal regular airbrushing works ?

I'm a big fan of AFV in 1/35 scale, and I started building WWII ships in 1/700 scale.

While I want to use it mostly for camo and detailing, how is it when it's time to cover larger area ?

Any alternative I should consider while I'm at it ? Like the Paasche H Card which is a bit cheaper ?

thanks !

  • Member since
    January 2012
  • From: Hatfield
Posted by Misty on Wednesday, April 16, 2014 12:01 PM

I have one and its a ggod airbrush. There is a thread on here on this brush as ppl have come across problem with the air valve/trigger feeling mushy or sticking. I myself have had this problem and had to strip it down and clean all the seals. I think it is caused by thinners/paint  bypassing the needle  seal and getting where its not supposed to be.

I t seems ok now its had a good clean and a drop of lube on the mechanism.

I am considering buying a badger renegade krome. I have a renegade spirit and its lovely and may try the krome too as it comes with both a. 2 and. 3 needle.

link to the problem thread

http://cs.finescale.com/fsm/tools_techniques_and_reference_materials/f/18/t/159237.aspx

  • Member since
    April 2004
  • From: Windy city, US
Posted by keilau on Wednesday, April 16, 2014 1:21 PM

JayF

I have some money to invest in my first "real" airbrush and I'm considering buying the Iwata Eclipse HP-CS

Any alternative I should consider while I'm at it ? Like the Paasche H Card which is a bit cheaper ?

The Iwata HP-CS is one of the most popular airbrush among modeler. It is perfect for beginner because it is very easy to learn from. It uses high quality material which makes it more resistant to accidental damage than other similarly priced models.

Do a search on "HP-CS" on this forum and you will come up with tons of reason to buy it.

The Paasche H is my first airbrush and is nowhere near the versatility of the HP-CS. It can do the job in the hand of a master modeler, but not friendly to the starter because you take much longer to build up skill on the Paasche H.

If you have a Hobby Lobby nearby, the Iwata is also cheap to keep spares. If you have to mail order spares, every brand is expensive.

  • Member since
    March 2010
  • From: MN
Posted by Nathan T on Wednesday, April 16, 2014 3:19 PM

This is my main go to airbrush. Its great for general coverage, and with some practice, it will get down to real fine lines, perfect for 1/48 luftwaffe mottle and real fine post-shading. For larger models doing general base coat coverage or priming, I prefer a larger nozzle, such as a .5mm. I'd recommend this airbrush to a beginner in a heartbeat.

 

 

  • Member since
    December 2011
Posted by Chrisk-k on Wednesday, April 16, 2014 4:43 PM

The best general purpose AB in my opinion. Super easy to clean. Visit other AB forums and you'll see why the HP-CS is one of the most beloved AB's not only among modelers but also among AB professionals.

Iwata HP-CS | Iwata HP-CR | Iwata HP-M2 | H&S Evolution | Iwata Smart Jet + Sparmax Tank

  • Member since
    January 2014
Posted by JayF on Wednesday, April 16, 2014 7:59 PM

Wow ! That was a tough question !   Stick out tongue

So you all convince me, I'll go get the Iwata HP-CS Eclipse.

One more question : about my air compressor, should I change anything or I can keep my noisy hardware-store monster as is ?

  • Member since
    December 2011
Posted by Chrisk-k on Wednesday, April 16, 2014 11:19 PM

If you don't mind the noise, use the current one for some time and buy a quiet compressor made by Iwata or Sparmax when you have $$ to burn (BTW, Sparmax manufactures Iwata compressors).  Also, buy an external MAC valve so that you can control the psi very conveniently.  I bough one for like $2 on eBay.

The HP-CS uses a self-centering drop-in nozzle, which is ultra convenient.  When disassembling the AB, always point the front end of the AB to the ceiling, remove the nozzle cap and take out the nozzle in order to prevent the nozzle from accidentally falling (keep in mind that the nozzle is not screwed in).    

Iwata HP-CS | Iwata HP-CR | Iwata HP-M2 | H&S Evolution | Iwata Smart Jet + Sparmax Tank

  • Member since
    April 2004
  • From: Windy city, US
Posted by keilau on Friday, April 18, 2014 10:14 PM

JayF

Wow ! That was a tough question !   Stick out tongue

So you all convince me, I'll go get the Iwata HP-CS Eclipse.

One more question : about my air compressor, should I change anything or I can keep my noisy hardware-store monster as is ?

If modeling is you hobby, not your job, why would you ever want to suffer the noisy compressor? Modeling is supposed to be fun.
 
I understand different people has different tolerance of noisy. If you enjoy the compressor noise more than having some background music, the tools compressor will be fine for you. It can pump a lot more air than you will ever need for airbrushing. You will need to add a good quality, diaphram type regulator with moisture trap.
 
I first got my HP-CS in 2008. Since then, I have acquired the Harder and Steenbeck Evolution Silverliner, and the Badger Krome. All three are excellent choice for modeling. But the Iwata HP-CS is still my go-to airbrush that gets the most use
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