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dcf
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Future and Flat Base
Posted by dcf on Friday, May 9, 2014 6:01 PM

I've been trying to use Future as a flat coat by mixing it with Tamiya flat base and isopropyl alcohol.  I mix the Future and alcohol about 70/30 then add the flat base and mix well.  The results aren't flat and I get white residue in areas of the model.

Anyone out there have any suggestions or am I missing something critical in the process?

Thanks.

fox
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Posted by fox on Friday, May 9, 2014 7:15 PM

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Posted by stikpusher on Friday, May 9, 2014 7:22 PM

leave out the alcohol. try using less flat base. I dont use the mixure myself, but Duke Maddog on here swears by it (not at it) at IPMS and AMPS meetings

Oh yes, try posting this question in the painting airbrushing forum section. This area of the forum if for help with the forum itself.Wink

 

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Posted by Milairjunkie on Saturday, May 10, 2014 1:46 AM

Like said, skip the alcohol - also make sure that the flat base is well mixed.

For some good info on Future, including flat base mixing ratios have a look here;

http://www.swannysmodels.com/TheCompleteFuture.html

dcf
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Posted by dcf on Saturday, May 10, 2014 6:34 AM

Thanks, for both suggestions.... rookie error.

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Posted by Silver on Friday, June 13, 2014 11:11 AM
Add a small amount of cornstarch to any water base solution ,and it will leave a good final flat result.It also works w/enamels.
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Posted by Silver on Sunday, June 15, 2014 10:54 AM
Make sure it's your final coat.It will leave an award winning finish.
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Posted by FlyItLikeYouStoleIt on Monday, June 16, 2014 6:19 PM

Seriously, cornstarch?

So, simply mixing some cornstarch into some plain Future will result in a perfect flat coat?

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Posted by Chrisk-k on Wednesday, June 25, 2014 2:01 PM

No need to take a chance with Future + flat base. There are several great acrylic matt varnishes. My favorites are W&N Galaria & Vallejo. They always work flawlessly.

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Posted by stikpusher on Wednesday, June 25, 2014 7:40 PM

Yes, but if you already have the product, why spend money on something else that duplicates that products role? Save that money for somewhere it can be better used. When hobby budgets tighten up, this is a prime consideration.

 

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Posted by stikpusher on Friday, June 12, 2015 4:37 PM

Well, I walked down to a nearby RC LHS becuae I wanted to try an acrylic flat coat in order to cut down some time on a project. Unfortunately they were out of the MM Acryl stuff, but they did have some Tamiya Flat Base. So I bought the stuff and am gonna give this stuff a try here and see how it works.

 

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Posted by stikpusher on Saturday, June 13, 2015 1:50 PM

Well I tried it a little while ago. I can tell that it's gonna take some experimentation to get right.

 

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Posted by Chrisk-k on Saturday, June 13, 2015 4:44 PM

Why use Tamiya Flat Base when you can use Tamiya Flat Clear XF-86?  

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Posted by stikpusher on Saturday, June 13, 2015 4:45 PM

Because the shop did not have any on hand. You get what you can, when you can.

 

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Posted by Chrisk-k on Sunday, June 14, 2015 12:23 AM

I see. Next time you order online, buy some XF-86. It's become my favorite matte varnish.

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Posted by stikpusher on Sunday, June 14, 2015 12:32 AM

I do not do much online ordering, and certainly not for paints. I have five hobby shops (2 scale models, 1 R/C, & 2 Railroad) , plus a Hobby Lobby all less than a 30 minute drive away. But I will keep my eye open for XF-86 at the shops. I am sure it is good stuff.

 

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