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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, April 1, 2004 4:15 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by MikeV
You must be a local. Wink [;)]


Yup....I'm in Pleasanton.
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Posted by roosterfish on Thursday, April 1, 2004 3:39 PM
A couple of miles to the north and you could have flown around the San Mateo bridge. Imagine flying it and landing at the SF airport? Authorities would not be happy.
Winners never quit; quitters never win.
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Posted by MikeV on Thursday, April 1, 2004 2:15 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by sideshow

The model in the video was about $15K to put together.Shock [:O]


Wow! [:0]

QUOTE: Did you fly them on the hill at CSH?


You must be a local. Wink [;)]
I only flew there once, most of the time I flew them over at Coyote Hill along the bay near thr Dumbarton bridge.

Mike

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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, April 1, 2004 12:39 PM
The model in the video was about $15K to put together.Shock [:O]

Did you fly them on the hill at CSH?
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Posted by MikeV on Thursday, April 1, 2004 12:04 PM
Those are fun until you get a radio glitch and $500 worth of model comes down to the ground like a rock. Laugh [(-D]
I used to fly R/C sailplanes.

Mike

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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, April 1, 2004 11:47 AM
Here is some video of the next model I'd like to have.....

http://www.joemcbride.com/rc/vids/jet/Hornetfever.wmv

It's a 1/7 scale F-18...check out the gear!
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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, April 1, 2004 11:39 AM
Cool...thanks guys.
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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, April 1, 2004 12:11 AM
or even better, on coast airbrush dot com, they have the BADGER 155 ANTHEM for $49!!! and send me the extra money Wink [;)] just kidding, buy more 1/9 planes
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Posted by MikeV on Wednesday, March 31, 2004 11:10 PM
Roosterfish is right, save your money.
The HP-BC was designed as more of a background gun and is overkill.
The Eclipse HP-BCS will do everything it will do and costs less than half as much.

Mike

Wisdom is the right use of knowledge. To know is not to be wise. Many men know a great deal, and are all the greater fools for it. There is no fool so great a fool as a knowing fool. But to know how to use knowledge is to have wisdom. " Charles Spurgeon
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Posted by roosterfish on Wednesday, March 31, 2004 10:22 PM
I think it is $100 overpriced. Save your money to buy some paint with a cheaper AB. You'll like the money padding your pocket more than you would see a small, if any, difference that expensive AB has.
Winners never quit; quitters never win.
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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, March 31, 2004 9:00 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by MikeV
The Iwata numbers are confusing aren't they? Confused [%-)]


I thought there might be a some difference. I found the BC......is it $100 better?
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Posted by MikeV on Wednesday, March 31, 2004 8:55 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by sideshow

QUOTE: Originally posted by MikeV
The HP-BC that you mentioned is about $170......


I just went to order this AB from Dixie Art and it's now $75! Not sure why but I need to get my order in......


That is the HP-BCS, not the HP-BC. There is a big difference.
The HP-BCS is a siphon-feed Eclipse model like this:


The HP-BC on the other hand is not an Eclipse model and it is designed for spraying larger amounts of paint, almost like a small spray gun.
It and the BC2 look like this:


The HP-BC is $169.95 from Dixie, the one for $75 that you mentioned is the Eclipse HP-BCS.

The Iwata numbers are confusing aren't they? Confused [%-)]

Mike

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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, March 31, 2004 8:18 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by MikeV
The HP-BC that you mentioned is about $170......


I just went to order this AB from Dixie Art and it's now $75! Not sure why but I need to get my order in......

Thanks.
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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, March 19, 2004 5:59 PM
meh... the dude at the hobby shop almost talked me into buying an aztek... then i bought a hasegawa 1/32 me 262, a lot of paints, and a couple of knives... same price... that marked me re-entering the hobby about 9 months ago.
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Posted by MikeV on Friday, March 19, 2004 3:11 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by sideshow

I need to get an airbrush and have decided on an Iwata because of this forum. I will be painting large flying models (working on a 1/9 scale F-15 now). The majority of the painting will be done with an automotive detail gun but I want an airbrush for applying camo colors and such. It seems most really like the HP-C. Would the siphon feed HP-BC be better because it holds more paint? Do either one of them paint better? I will probably be using MM paints on my military models (the sport ones get PPG). Thanks all.


I would go with the HP-BCS for that application. The HP-C is an illustration airbrush and what you are going to be doing is larger scale so I would go with a siphon-feed.
The HP-BC that you mentioned is about $170 also which is outrageous if you ask me.
You can get a Badger Anthem 155 for close to 1/3 the price of that Iwata and have a great gun, but that is up to you. If you are dead set on an Iwata then go for the Eclipse BCS.

Mike

Wisdom is the right use of knowledge. To know is not to be wise. Many men know a great deal, and are all the greater fools for it. There is no fool so great a fool as a knowing fool. But to know how to use knowledge is to have wisdom. " Charles Spurgeon
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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, March 19, 2004 2:19 PM
I need to get an airbrush and have decided on an Iwata because of this forum. I will be painting large flying models (working on a 1/9 scale F-15 now). The majority of the painting will be done with an automotive detail gun but I want an airbrush for applying camo colors and such. It seems most really like the HP-C. Would the siphon feed HP-BC be better because it holds more paint? Do either one of them paint better? I will probably be using MM paints on my military models (the sport ones get PPG). Thanks all.
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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, March 16, 2004 1:14 AM
Fisch90,
Had the same dilema as you when I wanted to step up from my Badger 250 SA. The guy at the Local Hobby shop almost talked me into an Aztek, however, I went with the Omni 4000 at Dixie Art. Had it a week and I love it. Very comfortable in the hand and sprays like a dream. Good price too at $70.00 and they don't charge shipping. Can't beat it.

Joe
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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, March 15, 2004 1:17 PM
i would choose the iwata over the omni, dunno why :| i like heavier weight as well, i can manover it around easier than a superlight aztek. just don't make the error many of us have made, of buying an aztek ;)
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Posted by saltydog on Saturday, March 13, 2004 11:53 PM
well, ive had my iwata hp-c for about a week now and have been swapping between it and the omni 5000 i purchased 6 or 8 months ago. here is what saltydog has found in his experimentation with the two. please realize that these are what i like, you may not like it, we're all different and its a good thing. if you are on a budget, choose the badger brand because i achieved the same spray patterns from fine to broad with both brushes. if someone came up to me and said "choose the omni 5000 or the iwata hp-c because im about to take one and you can have no other airbrushes" (man that would be a nightmare), i would choose the iwata hp-c.

here is what i like and dislike about both models:
1. the iwata fits my thick hands with less cramping so the iwata gets the nod on comfort.

2. yes, i can achieve the tight line cammo pattern (which is what ill be modelling 90% of the time) with both brushes and you cant tell the difference with the naked eye but....i can achieve them more readily and easily with the hp-c.

3. i like the "wieght" of the hp-c airbrush (i know thats strange, but i like it)

4. i like the accessories i can get with the iwata, such as the crown cap and the preset handle.

5. trigger smoothness in my opinion goes to the omni 5000. the omni has adjustable spring tension and the iwata dont. i like the spring tension to be loose as possible.

6. the omni 5000 is easier to clean and breakdown in my opinion. not that the iwata is hard, but the iwata hp-c has very sharp edges in the bottom of the bowl which seems to snag a q-tip and shred small pcs of cotton fibers off and into the cleaning solution. that is not a good thing.

7. it is easier to change colors with the omni 5000 as well.

there is absolutely nothing wrong with the omni 5000 and it will remain employed and be a valuable tool in my hobby arsenal, but i would choose the iwata if i had to just choose one. thats my opinion, and you know what people say about opinions, there like armpits, everybody got one or two and they usually stink! later.
Chris The Origins of Murphy's Law: "In the begginning there was nothing, and it exploded."!!! _________ chris
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Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, March 13, 2004 10:28 PM
teona: i would go for them in this order:

Iwata - Medea HI_LINE HP-CH
TAMIYA Spray-Work HG-SF
Thayer & Chandler OMNI 5000
Badger Satar 20/20

why? the HP ch has a .3 needle, which is already a little overkill but imho the best.
the hg-sf has a .20 needle, compared to the .18 of the cmc plus. Logicly speaking (mike plz correct me :D), it should do lines a little fatter than the cmc plus. The omni is there because its cheap and plentiful and because mike said so :). sotar is WAYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYy overkill for models, its like using a micron pigment pen to make big posters.
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Posted by MikeV on Saturday, March 13, 2004 9:23 PM
Moonwoka,

I sent you an email for a place to contact.

Mike

Wisdom is the right use of knowledge. To know is not to be wise. Many men know a great deal, and are all the greater fools for it. There is no fool so great a fool as a knowing fool. But to know how to use knowledge is to have wisdom. " Charles Spurgeon
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Posted by moonwoka on Saturday, March 13, 2004 8:54 PM
After reading some specific posts in this forum, I decided to give a try to Badger 100LG, as my first AB. I wish to think, I've made a good choice, but You can still encourage me Blush [:I]

Nevertheless, I struck an iceberg - there is no easy way to order it! Dixie Arts sell it for 61$ and they ask 51$ for shipping! BearAir doesn't respond so far. Most of retailers in Europe sell it for the price up to three time as much - the "record" so far is 106 pounds of sterlings. My problems ain't gonna end Banged Head [banghead]

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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, March 12, 2004 3:13 PM
I have been through TWO testors gp 100 airbrushes and an aztek a470 (clear blue) and I would not recommend them to anyone.
they are all plastic! (don't let "acetal resin" fool you)they break just when you need them most.
I am thinking of the Badger 3501F
any suggestions?
I have a very small budget. ($6.36 per hour)
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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, March 10, 2004 6:49 PM
The TAMIYA Spray-Work HG-SF is basscially an Iwata airbrush, made at the same factory as are the Wave and a variety of other airbrushes.

The Wave equivalent would be the Advance 02, costs a bit more but got the MAC system build in.
Check prices very careful with the online retailers for AB coming from japan it might be cheaper to buy from a japanese online shop Rainbow 10, Hobby Link Japan, etc.

At times a local japanese maker like Wave got a very similar item but for a lot less than the name brand one.
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Posted by lito.sf on Wednesday, March 10, 2004 6:36 PM
My vote goes definetly for Iwata!!
I have an eclipse bs and i dont want another airbrush!
to me is #1!
Dont forget about air suply, it´s no use to spend a lot of money on a airbrush without having good air suply!
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Posted by MikeV on Wednesday, March 10, 2004 5:02 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by teona

Hi Guys and Gals.
Currently looking at purchasing a new airbrush for fine detail on 1/72 scale models, there are 4 models that are of interest to me.
TAMIYA Spray-Work HG-SF
Thayer & Chandler OMNI 5000
Iwata - Medea HI_LINE HP-CH
Badger Satar 20/20

Please tell me which is best for me


What do you mean by "Fine detail" on these models?

Mike

Wisdom is the right use of knowledge. To know is not to be wise. Many men know a great deal, and are all the greater fools for it. There is no fool so great a fool as a knowing fool. But to know how to use knowledge is to have wisdom. " Charles Spurgeon
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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, March 10, 2004 2:46 PM
Hi Guys and Gals.
Currently looking at purchasing a new airbrush for fine detail on 1/72 scale models, there are 4 models that are of interest to me.
TAMIYA Spray-Work HG-SF
Thayer & Chandler OMNI 5000
Iwata - Medea HI_LINE HP-CH
Badger Satar 20/20

Please tell me which is best for me


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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, March 9, 2004 5:56 AM
QUOTE: Originally posted by Fisch90

mike I want an airbrush for less or around 100$.

Thanks



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Posted by MikeV on Friday, March 5, 2004 11:16 AM
There's a dump truck full in my back yard? [:0]

I have to go look, I'll be right back. Clown [:o)]

Mike

Wisdom is the right use of knowledge. To know is not to be wise. Many men know a great deal, and are all the greater fools for it. There is no fool so great a fool as a knowing fool. But to know how to use knowledge is to have wisdom. " Charles Spurgeon
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