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Messed up Alclad 2 job

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  • Member since
    January 2012
  • From: Hatfield
Posted by Misty on Wednesday, July 2, 2014 2:28 AM

dont be nervous, use humbrol and it will come out super. make sure you leave it about 5-7 days to cure before alclading it though.

  • Member since
    February 2007
Posted by mitsdude on Tuesday, July 1, 2014 10:49 PM

This makes me feel more nervous than ever about painting my "Luna" in Alclad chrome. Sad

  • Member since
    April 2009
  • From: Longmont, Colorado
Posted by Cadet Chuck on Tuesday, July 1, 2014 10:29 PM

I have thrown out about $100 worth of Alcad.  I have had no success with it whatsoever, even though I followed all directions. And I am an experienced modeler.  I won't use it again.

Gimme a pigfoot, and a bottle of beer...

  • Member since
    December 2006
  • From: Phoenix, AZ
Posted by Fly-n-hi on Tuesday, July 1, 2014 5:47 PM

Alclad had issues with a few batches of their Gloss Black Base back in 2010 or 2011.  Whoever it was that produced the paint for Alclad had the formula wrong.  Alclad has corrected the issue and their Gloss Black Base works as advertised.

It is important to get the word out on this because a great product is getting a bad rep for something that has been rectified.  I've used it (the correct formula) several times in the recent past with great results!  I feel like its the people who don't use it who keep telling everybody that its a bad product.

But this brings up point that I have made several times on these boards.  There is no need to apply a gloss black base when using the regular Alclad II paints.  This is only necessary when using the Alclad II High Shine paints.  Applying gloss black when using the regular paints is a completely unnecessary and is just one more thing that can go wrong (which happened in this case, didn't it).  I've experimented on scarp plastic to see if the regular Alclad II paints looked better on a gloss black surface and there was no noticeable difference.

It has become a sort of internet legend that gloss black under Alclad II regular shine paints some how makes them shinier.  It really doesn't.  The regular shine paints are opaque while the high shine paints are somewhat translucent.  Now, having a smooth surface under the regular Alclad II paints is a must...it absolutely doesn't have to be gloss black and it really doesn't have to be gloss, either, though.  If you used fine sanding paper over something like Tamiya Surface Primer you will get great results with Alclad II regular paints.

  • Member since
    May 2013
Posted by Snibs on Tuesday, July 1, 2014 4:17 PM

Another vote for Humbrol as a primer, even Humbrol Clear works fine.

Some stuff that might be interesting.

https://sites.google.com/view/airbrush-and-modeling/home

On The Bench.

Tiger 1 and Tooheys.

 

  • Member since
    January 2012
  • From: Hatfield
Posted by Misty on Tuesday, July 1, 2014 4:10 PM

Lost count of the number of ppl who had problems with alclads gloss black, me included. I have given up on it and now use humbrol gloss enamel black.

Alclads black never seems to cure properly ( or takes a stupid long time to do so).

  • Member since
    February 2003
  • From: USA
Posted by woody0369 on Tuesday, July 1, 2014 4:05 PM

Do I need to sand all the way down to primer?

  • Member since
    February 2003
  • From: USA
Posted by woody0369 on Tuesday, July 1, 2014 4:04 PM

Yeah, for whatever reason I didn't sand my primer. Thanks

  • Member since
    November 2004
  • From: Cat Central, NC
Posted by Bronto on Tuesday, July 1, 2014 3:55 PM

Yes, wet sand with 2000 or so.  this should take down the rough finish of the primer then re-apply the alclad.  I always sand the primer with 2000 then 4000 before you  spray the alclad color.

  • Member since
    February 2003
  • From: USA
Messed up Alclad 2 job
Posted by woody0369 on Tuesday, July 1, 2014 3:51 PM

Hey all, we'll I started the paint job on my P47 D and was going for a natural metal finish. I've applied Alclads before with great success, however I tried something different this time. I primed the whole model then laid down Alclad gloss black then the Alclad aluminum. The entire model looked like a piece of sandpaper and blotchy. My question is, can I sand the surface down without removing all the paint and re-apply the Alclad?

Thanks

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