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Has anyone noticed that Testor's has been discontinuing enamel colors?

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Posted by TarnShip on Wednesday, November 26, 2014 4:35 PM

you can make your own Testors/Model Master list

go here, check and uncheck the ranges to key in on Testors/Model Master,,,,,and then you can make your list  http://www.paint4models.com/

you will find that when RPM bought the Polly Scale stuff, they eliminated some of the duplicate colors, they deleted some from the Polly Scale line, and some from Model Master Acrylics. Then just recently, they cut the Polly Scale line, and have been adding some of the Railroad colors (not the formula) back into the MM Acrylics.

By making your own list, you can see where the new gaps are in the Enamel line. (they are just recycling their "Acrylic trick".

Testors will figure out the results of this after about a thousand "where are the Xtracolour and Humbrol dealers in the US" posts, lol

Rex

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Posted by BlackRook on Wednesday, November 26, 2014 3:36 PM

So, in regards to the Testor's thing... I guess that makes my mind up on whether I should be considering going to Acrylics or not.  I was coming to the forum, actually, to find out if anyone knew why Squadron doesn't advertise Testor's enamels anymore.  This could be part of it, I guess.

From what I can tell, the Testor's site still shows everything, albeit split between 'Enamel' and 'American FS Enamel' sections?  So maybe they are just quietly dropping a color or two, so now I'm with you and the purpose of the post.  Does anyone have one of the old pamphlet color lists?  

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Posted by BlackRook on Wednesday, November 26, 2014 3:31 PM

AT6 - decant those rattlers into jars and use the paint up, at least.

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Posted by Ghostrider114 on Saturday, November 22, 2014 6:42 PM

I can't believe some of the colors they're discontinuing, I mean I'd understand if they stopped making the odd variants like US Army/USMC Gulf Armor Sand or Israeli Armor Sand, but they discontinued just plain Armor Sand instead!  Anyone who does modern armor is going to understand why that's important.  

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Posted by Tucohoward on Wednesday, November 19, 2014 7:38 PM

Sprue Brothers is still showing almost all MM enamels in stock.  Have no idea what Testors is doing, but if you are worried, stock up now.  For me, I am still trying to figure out why anyone uses something other than Mr. ColorBig Smile

Jay

The Mighty Mo says no.

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Posted by mitsdude on Wednesday, November 19, 2014 2:22 AM

Sprue-ce Goose

Raualduke

I'm partial to enamels also.let's say I go into panic mode and decide to stock up.would anyone happen to know the shelf life of an unopened bottle?

I know my old ( 80s era ) Testors enamels eventually solidified in the bottom of those little square jars, despite being factory sealed.
Can't say for the current batch of enamels.
BTW................I suspect a run on Testors enamels may have started as during my last visit to the local hobby shop  I noticed the Testors enamel rack was half empty.

I still have a few bottles from the mid 60's-early 70's. The paint is still good enough that a quick "sniff" will bring back a flood of memories.

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Posted by Raualduke on Monday, November 17, 2014 3:20 PM

Thanks  for the info  spruce ,.mike

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Posted by Sprue-ce Goose on Monday, November 17, 2014 3:14 PM

Raualduke

I'm partial to enamels also.let's say I go into panic mode and decide to stock up.would anyone happen to know the shelf life of an unopened bottle?

I know my old ( 80s era ) Testors enamels eventually solidified in the bottom of those little square jars, despite being factory sealed.
Can't say for the current batch of enamels.
BTW................I suspect a run on Testors enamels may have started as during my last visit to the local hobby shop  I noticed the Testors enamel rack was half empty.
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Posted by jibber on Monday, November 17, 2014 2:17 PM

Generally I spray Tamiya Acrylic and brush Testors MM, for me this is the best of both worlds. I'm getting to old to change now so maybe a new line of enamels will come along to provide all the great colors MM carries but I sure hope Testors keeps their line open.

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Posted by MikeyBugs95 on Monday, November 17, 2014 12:09 PM
With an acrylic retarder it works well. Actually one of the Tamiya paints I have that is rather brush friendly is their Olive Drab. Add a few drops of Future floor polish in and it's brushable.

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Posted by Raualduke on Monday, November 17, 2014 10:07 AM

Amen to trying to brush tamiya,it's almost not worth trying. Big fan of Vallejo these days

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Posted by MikeyBugs95 on Sunday, November 16, 2014 10:29 PM

I have some PollyScale acrylics and love them. Luckily one of the LHS' near me has a good stock. I've started moving away from my beloved enamels that I started with and I started using more acrylics. Mostly Tamiya (but boy I absolutely dread brushing that paint on...) and PollyScale but I have about 1 or 2 bottles of ModelMaster Acryl. For me, I like the fact that I can just dip my paint brush in a bowl of water and with a few little swishes and runs, I have a clean brush. But I do agree that it's sad and a real tragedy to the US hobby region if Testors closes off their paint lines. No matter what hobby shop you inadvertently run in to, its almost guaranteed that they will carry some form of Testors paint. Humbrol is a great paint (and I'm still pissed my khaki ran dry) but it is a very small pot and isn't too well carried (of all the shops I've visited here on Long Island, New York, and there's a lot of shops here, only one carries Humbrol). They shut down the PollyScale and Floquil lines  (which are great paints by the way, if you find any... pick them up while you can. Do NOT miss those paints) and now that they are drifting away, it will be a great loss if they stop producing any number of their paints. If they shut down the ModelMaster line, I think we should all picket their plants until they make the line again...

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Posted by mississippivol on Sunday, November 9, 2014 4:20 PM

Should last a good while. I only have trouble after they've been opened up and used.

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Posted by Raualduke on Sunday, November 9, 2014 4:16 PM

I'm partial to enamels also.let's say I go into panic mode and decide to stock up.would anyone happen to know the shelf life of an unopened bottle?

AT6
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Posted by AT6 on Sunday, November 9, 2014 11:04 AM

I made a mistake on the paint number. Should be 1733  [FS36622], not 1133.

They still have  the rattle can but I never use those.

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Posted by Rob Gronovius on Friday, November 7, 2014 9:51 PM

They were getting a little ridiculous in their color line. So many different shades of nearly identical colors. What happened to the good old days when we added a drop or two of white, black, etc. to another color to match our Mark 1 Eyeball?

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Posted by mitsdude on Friday, November 7, 2014 9:35 PM

Don't know if this is related but Hobby Lobby has clearanced all of their Testors Create-FX washes and stains. The washes are acrylics and the stains are enamels.

I thought for sure Testors would come out with the flesh and camo sets like Vallejo and Mig.

Also, I could swear I saw a product from Testors in the cookie/cupcake isle at Joanns Fabrics!

There is "House of Kolor" if you are into car colors.

I have  their sets that Walmart clearanced back in 2008ish. They are car, metallic, and military colors.

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Posted by TarnShip on Friday, November 7, 2014 4:48 PM

oh, I agree with that, Stik.

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Posted by stikpusher on Friday, November 7, 2014 4:42 PM

True but when one needs an enamel color now and you head into any hobby store, Testors pretty much has a monopoly on the enamel hobby paint market. And their reducing their line of available colors is NOT a good thing for us.

 

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Posted by TarnShip on Friday, November 7, 2014 1:35 PM

In the US, we are pretty much limited when it comes to enamels.

there are Testors, WEM Coloucoats, Xtracolours, Humbrol and what Floquil and Aeromaster you can find on Ebay and Amazon (some of the onlines still have some of the colors)

it is not all that much better for US acrylics users either.

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Posted by stikpusher on Friday, November 7, 2014 1:13 PM
Don Stauffer

Boy, I am in trouble. I do not like acrylics, and rarely use them. I am an enamel guy.  What other brand of enamel is widely available with a good line of military colors?  I guess I need to visit the model RR area of my hobby shop.  There used to be some good enamels and lacquers there.

Humbrol is the other only real alternative in the USA for enamels. In Europe there are Revell and Xtracolour paints, but I have seen either line here in many years. The old Floquil RR lines of both acrylics and enamels are long gone. And yes, the revamped Testors website seems to be geared far more towards crafting than sclae modeling or railroad hobbyists.

 

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Posted by bluenote on Friday, November 7, 2014 1:12 PM

My mistake, they do still have tools on there.  But the emphasis does seem to be crafts.

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Posted by bluenote on Friday, November 7, 2014 1:11 PM

Wow, you sure are right.  I went to their website now, and yea, hardly anything about models.  In fact, they don't  have any of their modeling tools and supplies on their site either.  (glue, knives, etc).

I have a bad feeling about this.

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Posted by BlackSheepTwoOneFour on Friday, November 7, 2014 10:22 AM

Rob - A long while back I sent an email to them regarding Testors moving away from model hobbyists and catering to crafters instead. Their reply was they will continue  cater to hobbyists and crafters alike. I'm starting to think there's more to the story and are lying to our faces.

I don't know anymore.
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Posted by Texgunner on Friday, November 7, 2014 10:16 AM


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Posted by Rob Gronovius on Friday, November 7, 2014 9:49 AM

There' been discussion about this on the IPMS forum. If you visit Testors web site, there is very little mention of anything model building related. It's all arts & crafts.

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Posted by Don Stauffer on Friday, November 7, 2014 9:44 AM

Boy, I am in trouble. I do not like acrylics, and rarely use them. I am an enamel guy.  What other brand of enamel is widely available with a good line of military colors?  I guess I need to visit the model RR area of my hobby shop.  There used to be some good enamels and lacquers there.

Don Stauffer in Minnesota

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Posted by TarnShip on Friday, November 7, 2014 2:58 AM

I thought Testors might be up to something that would expand their part in the hobby, when RPM acquired the Floqui/PollyScale group of paints. At the least, I thought they were buying them to assimilate them into a larger Testors line.

Now, it seems that someone wrote a business class term paper about how to run a company out of its business and switched the title to read "how to succeed". And Testors seems to be following it to the letter.

At the current rate, they will be lucky if they are still selling the square bottles they started with,,,,,in 5 years time. If hobbyists will even buy those, that is.

Rex

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Posted by stikpusher on Friday, November 7, 2014 2:08 AM
I've noticed. Testors seem to be dumping on both the railroad and scale modeling hobby communities.

 

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