Question for Harder & Steenbeck users

The .15 needle is also noticeably easier for fine lines over the .2 for me, I use enamels so I can't say if the same applies for acrylic. The .15 set suits your Silverline but if you get it with a Infinity you wont regret it :-) but experience is the biggest advantage.

I also have no dead zone in any of my three H&S's.

Mick.

Hi again Maddog,

My H&S Evolution Silverline doesn't seem to have that 'dead zone' problem - dunno why! But for getting consistent fine camo lines I find the use of the 'needle limiter' helpful. Also, in lieu of the fpc valve I bought the adjustable quick coupling (Part No, 104703) probably not as elegant as the fpc but works well to adjust pressure at the brush and is less expensive than the fpc and smaller than similar MAC valves - FWIW.

EDIT: should have added that I bought the AQC because it fits the hose and I have several other AB's and can thus get pressure control with any airbrush - the fpc would be only on the Evolution.

Thanks to everyone for taking time to respond. As Chris aptly put it, I was attempting to refer to the trigger's initial dead zone. I've recently been practicing with thinned Mr. Color and Tamiya paints in an attempt to increase my ability to paint fine camou details. A lot of that is perfecting the thinning and air pressure though the dead zone worked against me somewhat to be able to reliable stop and start my spray pattern. I think I need an fpc valve as my Badger compressor's regulator just isnt that precise once you get to 10 psi. But I thought I read that the Infinity had a redesigned trigger amongst its other benefits but maybe that referred to all H & S triggers. I may be just thinking that throwing money at this will fix something that just needs more practice but I wanted to ask if anyone had used both models , and if the Infinity really allows easier or at least more reliable painting of fine lines.  

Paint thickness and air pressure play a role in how fast a the paint will start to flow as well.

Are you referring to the trigger dead zone (the amount of trigger travel needed to start paint flow)?  I used to own an Evo Silverline.  It had a noticeable trigger dead zone, which some people would like.  But I didn't like it at all (FYI, my Iwata HP-CS & HP-B+ have no dead zone).    

Hi Maddog.

If you just want a tighter or as Milairjunkie says "Harder"  trigger maybe play with the spring? it's the cheaper option at about $1.50.

I have a Silverline, Infinity CR plus and the AL plus and love them.

Mick.

Apart from the cosmetic differences, the trigger, trigger seat & chuck assembly are mechanically identical & feel between the two is the same apart from the tension adjustment.

The tension adjustment on the Infinity does allow the trigger to be tightened up somewhat giving a tighter (or is that Harder....) trigger, but it doesn't change trigger travel or the point where paint starts to flow. The adjustable trigger only involves one other part, the adjusting nut / collar;

The tension adjust feature can be added to the Evolution, but it unfortunately involves changing the centre section & rear handle to those of the Infinity - all in the parts required will add up to about 1/3 or the price of an Evolution CRplus.........  

Maddog

Hi

I wanted to ask if anyone here has used both the Evolution Silverline and the Infinity CR series? I have one of the former and like it quite a bit. But I wanted to ask if the trigger for the Infinity is any more precise ? I like my Evo though I do wish it was a little tighter with regards to when it engages. I know the Infinity has the adjustable tension that may or may not help with this though I like to keep the amount of mechanical parts to a minimum to make breakdown and reassembly simpler. Thanks.

Hi Maddog,

I, too, have the Evolution Silverline and really like it. I don't notice any problems with the trigger 'engaging' precisely. Looking at replacerment parts, it looks to me that the Infinity trigger is physically the same as the Evolution but don't know if there is an internal difference in the  AB. I just looked at mine and the needle begins to retract as soon as I move the trigger.  Is it possible that the slot in the curved part of the trigger has become enlarged with use? . You can see pics of the trigger replacements here:

precisiongermanairbrush.com/accessories_harder.html