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Help with my Omni 5000!

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  • Member since
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  • From: Lower Alabama
Help with my Omni 5000!
Posted by saltydog on Thursday, March 4, 2004 10:40 PM
fellows, im quite frustrated with my 5000 as of now. i had to lay off the hobby for the last couple of weeks due to time constraints. when i have a few moments, i try to airbrush on some spare plastic to hone my skills. before the lay off, i could achieve the fine line very well with great consistancy. since my return, i cant seam to get my brush to "act" like it used to. i had great success using tamiya acrylics but i still like enamels because of the color selection. i swapped back to enamels to try the fine line and could only achieve a "morse code" type effect. i can begin spraying a line and concentrate on holding the trigger in the same position as i go along, but the paint just fades out after about 3 to 5 seconds with the trigger being in the same position. once i pass a certain point with my trigger, it begins spraying excellently. the only problem is, i cant do any kind of detail work with the pattern. i had simular problems with enamels before with my omni, so i did a thorough clean, primed the brush with tamiya thinner(i sprayed 2 bowls full through the brush), and tried my trusty old tamiya acrylics with the same effects. if i do achieve the fine line, its morse code for about 3 seconds or less and then no paint! i cant figure it out. i have tried replacing the needle and tip to no avail, tried a 3 to 4 increment increase/decrease in psi from 10 to 30 lbs, tried different ratios with different thinners, and loosened or tightened the head assembly. what gives? please make any suggestions that you feel would help. i feel like ive covered all the bases with the paint, but have i damaged a part that a rookie ab user dont know about? a very desparate and frustrated saltydog. thanks. later.
Chris The Origins of Murphy's Law: "In the begginning there was nothing, and it exploded."!!! _________ chris
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  • From: Hayward, CA
Posted by MikeV on Thursday, March 4, 2004 11:47 PM
Chris,

What are you using for an air source. Just curious as you didn't mention that.

Mike

Wisdom is the right use of knowledge. To know is not to be wise. Many men know a great deal, and are all the greater fools for it. There is no fool so great a fool as a knowing fool. But to know how to use knowledge is to have wisdom. " Charles Spurgeon
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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, March 5, 2004 12:09 AM
And are you using an inline water seperater??? Sometimes at work when we are using an airbrush, if we don't have a water seperater hooked up, it will "skip" so to speak.
  • Member since
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  • From: Lower Alabama
Posted by saltydog on Friday, March 5, 2004 7:55 AM
Mike, i have a good air supply. i have a frig compressor with a two gallon tank. kik, i have an air filter/moisture trap right out of the gate from the compressor going into the tank, then i have another moisture trap/ regulator in line coming out of the tank. i have a 8' badger air hose from the regulator/trap to my ab. i feel like the air supply is up to par but i could be wrong. just from "hearing" and feeling the air supply, it seems very consistant. later.
Chris The Origins of Murphy's Law: "In the begginning there was nothing, and it exploded."!!! _________ chris
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  • From: Hayward, CA
Posted by MikeV on Friday, March 5, 2004 4:19 PM
Chris,

What you are describing almost sounds like tip dry, but I don't think so.
If the needle looks fairly clean where it sticks out of the tip then it isn't tip dry.
The airbrush was disassembled and cleaned correct?
Is it possible that you got a piece of lint in the airbrush from cleaning it?
If you use Q-tips or pipe cleaners this is always something to look for.
Have you tried straining the paint in case there are small clumps in it?
You didn't overtighten the head assembly and strip it by mistake did you?
The O-ring on the head should seal that area good enough to not worry about bleeding air around the head.

When I get skips like that I turn the airbrush away from what I am painting, pull the trigger all the way back and blast some paint out of it. Sometimes a small piece of paint or other foreign material gets stuck in the tip and blasting out some paint will usually clear it.

Mike

Wisdom is the right use of knowledge. To know is not to be wise. Many men know a great deal, and are all the greater fools for it. There is no fool so great a fool as a knowing fool. But to know how to use knowledge is to have wisdom. " Charles Spurgeon
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  • From: Lower Alabama
Posted by saltydog on Friday, March 5, 2004 6:24 PM
mike, thats what baffles me, ive broke it down several times and did thorough cleans to see if i missed something. ive did the did the tip clear drill several times also. i do use qtips to clean some areas. if the 5000 is like your 4000, theres no way a particle could hide from you. when you break it down, you can see every crook and cranny. theres no particles. like i said, its a new tip and needle so a bent needles out of the question, clogged tip is out of the question too. it isnt tip dry because it acts like that as soon as you crank it up. ive reversed the aircap quard to watch the needle and nothing seems to be clogging the tip. one thing i did notice is that when i spray windex through, i get bubbles around the air cap. however, its as tight as my hand will turn it. ive never turned the air cap body further than a 1/4 turn past hand tight so i dont think i have overtightened it. i dont know man, ill go through it one more time. later.
Chris The Origins of Murphy's Law: "In the begginning there was nothing, and it exploded."!!! _________ chris
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Posted by MikeV on Friday, March 5, 2004 9:31 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by saltydog

one thing i did notice is that when i spray windex through, i get bubbles around the air cap.


That is normal and shouldn't affect anything.

Is it warm enough for paint to flow well? I am wondering if cold temps are what is messing you up?

Mike

Wisdom is the right use of knowledge. To know is not to be wise. Many men know a great deal, and are all the greater fools for it. There is no fool so great a fool as a knowing fool. But to know how to use knowledge is to have wisdom. " Charles Spurgeon
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  • From: Lower Alabama
Posted by saltydog on Friday, March 5, 2004 10:02 PM
its room temp.
Chris The Origins of Murphy's Law: "In the begginning there was nothing, and it exploded."!!! _________ chris
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  • From: Hayward, CA
Posted by MikeV on Friday, March 5, 2004 11:05 PM
Chris,

Send an email to Dave at Coast Airbrush and see what he says.
If anyone knows, he does.
kustom@coastairbrush.com

Mike

Wisdom is the right use of knowledge. To know is not to be wise. Many men know a great deal, and are all the greater fools for it. There is no fool so great a fool as a knowing fool. But to know how to use knowledge is to have wisdom. " Charles Spurgeon
  • Member since
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  • From: Lower Alabama
Posted by saltydog on Saturday, March 6, 2004 12:15 AM
thanks mike.
Chris The Origins of Murphy's Law: "In the begginning there was nothing, and it exploded."!!! _________ chris
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