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washing techniques
Posted by steve5 on Monday, March 30, 2015 5:03 AM
hello all ., trying to learn a bit about washes . I have been told to put a layer of gloss down before your wash goes on . I take it that the wash dulls this down . but why gloss why not matt , if you are doing the hull of a ship . and if you do need to do gloss I'm from Australia we don't have futures , what should I use . as alway's any help will be very appreciated . thank's guy's

 

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  • From: Twin Cities of Minnesota
Posted by Don Stauffer on Monday, March 30, 2015 8:52 AM

The idea is that the wash flows more easily on gloss surface.  This depends a bit on what kind of wash- pin wash or area wash.  I sometimes gloss surfaces, sometimes just add more thinner to make pin wash flow better.  However, over flat paint it still may take more applications along seam you are pin washing (shorter distance between pin points).

Don Stauffer in Minnesota

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  • From: Nampa, Idaho
Posted by jelliott523 on Monday, March 30, 2015 9:30 AM

I'd echo what Don said.  Also, as far as gloss coats go, there are several that you can use besides Future.  Alclad makes an acrylic as well as a lacquer.  Model Master, Tamiya, etc. all have gloss coats available.  I had used Future a few times, but couldnt get it to look right.  I finally switched to the Alclad Aqua Gloss Klear and like how it sprays.  No thinning needed and it provides a very nice finish.  Then, once you have applied your was, you can shoot some flat or satin over it to get rid of the high gloss shine.

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Posted by steve5 on Monday, March 30, 2015 2:37 PM

thanks guy's ., that explained a few thing's

 

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Posted by Hokey on Monday, March 30, 2015 4:26 PM

jelliott523

I'd echo what Don said.  Also, as far as gloss coats go, there are several that you can use besides Future.  Alclad makes an acrylic as well as a lacquer.  Model Master, Tamiya, etc. all have gloss coats available.  I had used Future a few times, but couldnt get it to look right.  I finally switched to the Alclad Aqua Gloss Klear and like how it sprays.  No thinning needed and it provides a very nice finish.  Then, once you have applied your was, you can shoot some flat or satin over it to get rid of the high gloss shine.

Can you provide a supplier link to acrylic clears?

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  • From: Nampa, Idaho
Posted by jelliott523 on Tuesday, March 31, 2015 12:08 PM

Hokey

jelliott523

I'd echo what Don said.  Also, as far as gloss coats go, there are several that you can use besides Future.  Alclad makes an acrylic as well as a lacquer.  Model Master, Tamiya, etc. all have gloss coats available.  I had used Future a few times, but couldnt get it to look right.  I finally switched to the Alclad Aqua Gloss Klear and like how it sprays.  No thinning needed and it provides a very nice finish.  Then, once you have applied your was, you can shoot some flat or satin over it to get rid of the high gloss shine.

Can you provide a supplier link to acrylic clears?

Hokey, I purchased mine on Ebay, just searched for Alclad products.  I've also seen it on several of the online retailers, Scalehobbist, Spruebrothers, etc.

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Posted by Hokey on Tuesday, March 31, 2015 3:51 PM

jelliott523

Hokey, I purchased mine on Ebay, just searched for Alclad products.  I've also seen it on several of the online retailers, Scalehobbist, Spruebrothers, etc.

I can only find "Lacquer" labeled items - but 1 product I see is called 4 oz. Bottle Aqua Gloss and even though it reads "Lacquer" the info states acrylic. This the stuff? Have you used it? Or do you think REAL lacquer best?

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  • From: Nampa, Idaho
Posted by jelliott523 on Tuesday, March 31, 2015 5:47 PM

If it says Aqua Gloss then it is the acrylic based stuff.  Yes, I have used it, it sprays extremely well.  You do have to watch for occasional tip-dry.  If you notice that it is drying on the tip, make sure to take a q-tip or cotton swab moistened with alcohol or windex and clean the tip, you dont want the little chunks of stuff coming off and landing on the model and messing up your gloss coat.

I think there are arguments for both types of finishes, some people prefer acrylic clears, others like the lacquers...I've used both and think they both have a place and a purpose.  My suggestion is to find what appeals to you.  If you go with lacquer based, make sure you have a good spray booth and/or respirator and use in a well ventilated area.

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