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Sealing an Alclad II paint job before decaling?

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Sealing an Alclad II paint job before decaling?
Posted by shandsgator8 on Friday, April 24, 2015 12:41 PM

So after a hiatus of a few years (my last model was the FW-190), I'm going to build another model using Alclad II. I've read that one doesn't need to seal (with a clear coat, such as Future) Alclad II before applying decals because using Future or another clear coat can actually dull-down the paint on the NMF model. But if that's the case, what if part of the model has the NMF paint and other parts (like the tail) has acrylic flat/matte paint? Based on my experience with the FW-190, I really need some Future to create a glass-like finish over the acrylic paint portions of the model to avoid silvering when applying decals.

What do you guys do?

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  • From: Bury St Edmunds, Suffolk, England
Posted by Bish on Friday, April 24, 2015 1:01 PM

You could brush paint the future on. Another option would be to mask round it, or paint the colour first, add the future, then mask and ad your NMF. I have not yet had to add decals to none NMF areas when using Alclad. But I use a gloss paint so it isn't an issue for me.

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  • From: MN
Posted by Nathan T on Friday, April 24, 2015 2:02 PM

First off, don't use Future. It alters the hue and shine worse than any other gloss I've used. Second- do any decals actually go over the non- metal areas? If so, just trim the carrier film off around those decals. If you can't, then I'd suggest glossing it with Alcad's Aqua gloss. Its a nice acrylic gloss coat but doesn't change the metal shine much at all.

 

 

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Posted by shandsgator8 on Friday, April 24, 2015 3:33 PM

Thanks for the responses, guys. If I don't need to seal before decaling, what do I use after decaling? Just a simple flat coat? Can it be an acrylic flat coat?

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  • From: Twin Cities of Minnesota
Posted by Don Stauffer on Saturday, April 25, 2015 10:27 AM

Just finished decaling a plane over Alclad.  Not only do you not need to gloss the surface for decals (it is glossy enough), I find adhesion of decals to Alclad excellent, and have never had a problem with decals pulling up from the stuff.

I did use a small amount of setting solution (setting, not solvent) when I applied the decals.

Don Stauffer in Minnesota

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Posted by shandsgator8 on Saturday, April 25, 2015 1:24 PM

Once the decals were applied, what did you use as a final coat to dull down and seal the model?

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  • From: Twin Cities of Minnesota
Posted by Don Stauffer on Sunday, April 26, 2015 9:22 AM

I used polished aluminum and did not want to dull it down (done in civil livery).  I find decals stick to alclad well enough that no sealing is needed.  Alclad is final finish. It is good and stable.

Don Stauffer in Minnesota

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    January 2012
Posted by shandsgator8 on Sunday, April 26, 2015 7:25 PM

So just to confirm, once the decals are applied, you do NOT apply any sort of clear coat? That seems almost sacrilegious to me (I've always thought there should be a final coat to seal everything in), but if that's how it's done, that's how it's done. For the record, I will be building a P-51D Mustang.

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