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ALCLAD II WHITE PRIMER & MICROFILLER ALC 306

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ALCLAD II WHITE PRIMER & MICROFILLER ALC 306
Posted by IEDDTEK on Sunday, July 12, 2015 12:00 PM

I want to use this lacquer, but it immediately clogs up my a/b. 

What is the thinning ratio for this product...and what is the thinner? Is this acrylic-based...or enamel?

All it says on the bottle is "clean a/b w/ALCLAD Airbrush Cleaner."

Also says it contains MEK and MIK. Super lethal solvents.

thanks in advance.

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    January 2013
Posted by BlackSheepTwoOneFour on Wednesday, July 15, 2015 1:11 PM

Alclad is lacquer so an Alclad thinner is for lacquer paints only and a is a must-have. Never thin Alclad using acrylic or enamels based thinner.

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  • From: Indiana, USA
Posted by Greg on Wednesday, July 15, 2015 2:43 PM

I've sprayed this straight out of the bottle several times with no issues that I recall.

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Posted by Real G on Wednesday, July 15, 2015 4:00 PM

I believe that the Alclad primers are pre-thinned for straight airbrushing.  The grey primer I have is that way, and that is how I use it.  Does yours look thick in the bottle?  If so, thin with lacquer thinner.

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Posted by IEDDTEK on Wednesday, August 19, 2015 11:59 AM

Thanks everyone. I thought it required lacquer thinner...just wanted to confirm. 

No...the stuff I bought does not look thick in the bottle...nevertheles...this is the second time I've had it clog my a/b after only a few seconds of spraying...pressure was 18 psi...And both times previous...I had first stripped and cleaned my gun down to the bone. So there were no pre-existing paint build up issues.

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    August 2015
  • From: the redlands Fl
Posted by crown r n7 on Thursday, August 20, 2015 6:48 PM

Hi there I use the same stuff for a long time I reduce air to 8-10 lbs to hi air will dry before it hits the sirface and clog the airbrush I also put a BB in the bottle for better mixing

 

 

 Nick.

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  • From: Phoenix, AZ
Posted by Fly-n-hi on Friday, August 21, 2015 10:53 AM

Just to confirm what has already been said...you don't need to thin Alclad II.  You shoot it straight from the bottle.  And I just use regular lacquer thinner that I buy at the hardware store to clean my airbrush.

I do get dry tip on the AB needle after a while of use so I soak a cotton swab in lacquer thinner and clean the needle tip as necessary.

If you are getting a clogged AB you  may have a bad bottle.  It happens from time to time. I had a bad bottle a few years ago and I contacted Alclad II to ask about it.  They actually sent me a new bottle!  I was impressed with the customer service!

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  • From: Twin Cities of Minnesota
Posted by Don Stauffer on Saturday, August 22, 2015 9:48 AM

I am amazed at how Alclad works. I don't like to use acrylics for fear of the stuff drying in airbrush before I can clean it (I have had it happen).  But somehow, Alclad, even though it dries real fast, never seems to affect my airbrush, even with a long painting session involving different shades of Alclad.

Don Stauffer in Minnesota

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  • From: Indiana, USA
Posted by Greg on Saturday, August 22, 2015 10:59 AM

Random thought... Being as the product is a microfiller, we have to assume it has less than a super-duper fine pigment. I'd guess a needle/nozzle size less than around .5mm might lead to clogging and/or excessive dry tip as well.

I've never tried spraying it with smaller than .5mm, so this is just a theory.

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Posted by jelliott523 on Sunday, August 23, 2015 9:12 AM

Greg

Random though... Being as the product is a microfiller, we have to assume it has less than a super-duper fine pigment. I'd guess a needle/nozzle size less than around .5mm might lead to clogging and/or excessive dry tip as well.

I've never tried spraying it with smaller than .5mm, so this is just a theory.

 

I'd agree with Greg on this one. Sounds like a logical thought, that if this is a filler, the pigmets are building up at the tip causing the tip-dry.

I've never used a filler product through either of my a/b's. If/when I need to use some type of filler, I typically will use Vallejo Acrylic putty, bondo, or Mr. Surfacer and apply with a brush since I am typically wanting to fill specific location and not cover the entire surface.

Just my 2 cents

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