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wjbwjb29 Enamels are oilbase so the Mona Lisa thinner has to work with them. I dont know why it doesnt work with your enamels. What brand are they? Bill
Enamels are oilbase so the Mona Lisa thinner has to work with them. I dont know why it doesnt work with your enamels. What brand are they?
Bill
Testors and Testors Model Master. Mona Lisa will not make a wash with them. It makes globs. So my enamel washes are made with generic hardware store paint thinner and my oil washes are made with Mona Lisa thinner.
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Chrisk-k Use Mona Lisa Odorless Paint Thinner for oil washes. It doesn't attack Tamiya acrylics at all.
Use Mona Lisa Odorless Paint Thinner for oil washes. It doesn't attack Tamiya acrylics at all.
Yes, that is the thinner that I have for my oils. Much milder than the paint thinner that I use to clean my brushes. Unfortunately it does not work with enamel paints, which was the original reason for which I bought it. I wanted to make enamel washes using Mona Lisa. That just turned into paint boogers when I tried mixing up enamels with Mona Lisa, so I had to go buy some oils in order for the ML not to be wasted.
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stikpusher What I do NOT want to do is add another layer in between. i.e. a coat of Future over teh base coat before I do any washes.
What I do NOT want to do is add another layer in between. i.e. a coat of Future over teh base coat before I do any washes.
You don't have to add anything. Do your oil washes/filter over it but let it cure at least for a day or two. The only time I would use Future is if i want gloss it up for decals or to get a sharp panel line wash.
Good to know that LT works good. I will try that next time I shoot some Tamiya acrylic.
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In any case I sprayed the base coat of Tamiya acrylic thinned with lacquer thinner. I gotta say that they airbrushed even better than when I thin with Tamiya thinner. And no real odor either. I used a ratio of 4 parts paint to 3 parts thinner... beautiful coverage and easy clean up of my airbrush with Windex...
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Even MM Acryl that easily lifts has done fine when applying oil washes and filters. I just let it sit and cure for at least a couple of days.
Thanks for the feedback guys. I have occasionally had problems with oil or enamel washes over an acrylic base removing some of the base color during the wash clean up, so I thought that I would try a different angle here.
Whether you thin with water or lacquer thinner, when the paint dries it is the same. The lacquid will evaporate leaving the same solid film. The paint will dry faster when thinned with lacquer thinner, and it may give you better adhesion. And it will be just as resilient to oil washes (I've never had my oil washes do harm to any acrylic paint).
For base coats, I thin Tamiya acrylics with thier acrylic thinner (X-20A). I've never had an issue with oil washes applied to Tamiya acrylics. I sometimes spray a coat of PFM to make washes flow better.
I have used Tamiya acrylics thinned with their X20A thinner and the oil washes do not affect it at all. I can't comment on thinning with LT but I have read from other modelers that it works just fine. I even used Tamiya paints in the hairspray method one time and was told to start attacking the paint with water within the hour otherwise it would be very difficult to distress the finish.
If unsure I would test on a piece of plastic or an old model just to see how things work out.
I am gonna try this out for a base coat. Reading on the forum here, Tamiya Acrylics are "tougher" when thinned with lacquer thinner. For those who have done this, how resiliant is the stuff for dissimilar layers? How well does it stand up to enamel/oil washes and such?
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