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Questions from noob about applying acrylic wash to acrylic paint

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Questions from noob about applying acrylic wash to acrylic paint
Posted by shermerpunt on Saturday, September 12, 2015 3:02 PM

On a tank, can I use Future as a clear coat, then apply acrylic washes? Or do I need to use lacquer or enamel?  What sheen (satin, gloss, etc.) should I use? Is the order: paint, clear, decals, clear, washes?  Should I airbrush the washes on, or use a brush?

cml
  • Member since
    March 2007
  • From: Brisbane, Australia
Posted by cml on Wednesday, September 16, 2015 2:55 AM

Hi Shermerpunt,

If using Future, then stick to an enamel wash. I haven't used Future in years, but from memory it's acrylic, so you risk stripping it off if you use an acrylic wash.

Never tried lacquer for washes, but i'd avoid that too purely due to my lack of experience.

You can use any sheen you like for the wash. If you want a matte effect post wash, then final coat in clear matte.

Your sequence is correct and use a paint brush for the wash - it needs to be very thin.

Chris

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    October 2006
Posted by JunJon on Wednesday, September 16, 2015 6:47 AM

I you haven't done any wash before. Then its easier for you to learn.

 

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I'm all acrylic after priming( I don't have access to Badger Stynylrez primer ).

 

The best thing about acylic wash is you save a lot of cotton buds or Q tips. And theres no lint left over by the cotton if you use a solvent based wash.

Surely, other modellers will argue solvent based wash is better due to there capillary action when applying it.

Like I said, you need a different mindset when using acrylic wash.

You can still use the Future for surface preparation for wash. As long as you let it dry for a day.

On my side I use Vallejo Premium Color Polyethane Varnishes since I cannot get future in my country. In my book. "Best set of Acrylic Polyurethane clear Satin Matt and Gloss varnishes" I ever used.

 

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    December 2011
Posted by Chrisk-k on Wednesday, September 16, 2015 1:40 PM

I personally don't see any advantage of using acrylic washes over oil/enamel washes. 

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  • From: Central Florida
Posted by plasticjunkie on Monday, September 21, 2015 6:09 PM

If you apply a wash over a glossy finish, the wash will flow into details like louvers, recessed details, and puddle around bolts and nuts. If you want the wash as a filter then apply it over a flat finish as it will be absorbed and lightly tint the area. Oil or enamel washes flow out much better than acrylic washes so I make my own from Turp and artist oils. Do not use lacquer as a wash as it is very strong and will lift the paint, acrylic or enamel. I use lacquer thinner to clean out my air brushes and it will dissolve and remove even dried acrylic.

I have heard a few times that an acrylic wash can be used over cured Future. If using a solvent type wash then you need an acrylic barrier.

I recently used Flory Washes that are water/clay based and they do a great job over a glossy surface. However, they are a bit harder to remove from flat finishes.

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