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    March 2016
Posted by Haptesthai on Wednesday, March 30, 2016 2:00 PM
Nothing but a tank. If you don't like noise (heck, who does?) you can always get a quieter compressor for some extra, or you can have the motor replaced with a fridge compressor at a fridge or A/C repair store.
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    November 2009
  • From: Twin Cities of Minnesota
Posted by Don Stauffer on Wednesday, March 23, 2016 9:29 AM

I used to use Krylon primer, but they are going away from the good stuff in favor of combined paint-primer combo stuff, so I am trying other brands of primer.

I am a Testors enamel fan, and do find the square bottles and the model master to be similar enough that I use them interchangably, thinning the same, etc.  I like enamels for two reasons.  If I get a clog in my airbrush with acrylics, it can be a real problem cleaning it, and I often want a glossy finish for civil projects, and it is easier to get a good gloss with enamel than with acrylics.

Don Stauffer in Minnesota

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    March 2016
Posted by cbion1 on Wednesday, March 23, 2016 7:20 AM

Also what should I look for in a compressor for the airbrush?

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    January 2014
  • From: Nampa, Idaho
Posted by jelliott523 on Tuesday, March 22, 2016 12:17 PM

I'll echo what Blacksheep stated above. I used to use Krylon rattle can primers as well, but found that coverage wasnt the greatest for me. There are a few guys here that swear by the stuff and to each is their own, my suggestion is to find what works for you! I too, use a combination of acrylics, enamels, even some lacquers (Alclad II). Lately, I have been using primarily Ammo of Mig Jimenez colors and Tamiya. I really like the way they perform, they are great for airbrushing, just remember to do some research on each paint you intened to use to find out about any specific application techniques; each one can be a little tricky at first. As for primers, I have switched to using Badger's Stynlrez primer as my first go-to, followed by Ammo of Mig and AK Interactive primers. I love the way that Stynlrez self-levels and the coverage is great, it does require an airbrush for application.

As for airbrushes, my first brush was the Master G-22 I purchased on EBay, it was a great learning brush, but soon found that I wanted and could achieve better results if I had a better brush. I then picked up a Paasche Talon and absolutely love it, I recently picked up a Badger Krome; however, I have not had a chance to actually put any paint through it yet. I have a small hobby compressor with a tank that I purchased of TCP Global, the link that Blacksheep provided above. It comes with a pressure guage, moisture trap and is very quiet.

On the Bench:  Lots of unfinished projects!  Smile

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    March 2016
Posted by cbion1 on Tuesday, March 22, 2016 10:14 AM

Thank you for the help. Just to clarify the primer was testors enamel primer. The krypton was the clear coat for the top. would you still recommend rustoleum clear? Also can enamels and acrylics be mixed on the same surface, I heard that can lead to the acrylic peeling. also can different brand enamels be mixed on the same surface? I.e. base coat with a testors light color enamel then Vallejo dark enamel on top.

 

I also saw that acrylics are much easier to use in an airbrush, but should I avoid enamel in the airbrush?

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    January 2013
Posted by BlackSheepTwoOneFour on Tuesday, March 22, 2016 9:50 AM

Oh Krylon.... Krylon gave me nothing but headaches and ruined kits in past. Get Rustoleum primer instead.

As far as paint preferences be it enamels or acrylics - it makes no difference. The only difference is those little square bottles don't give you a whole variety of shades like Testors Model Master does. Besides Model Master is a better way to go due the much larger  color choices. The little square bottles mainly are auto paints. Not that it mattered when it comes to Zinc Chromate, black, red, etc... It's just that Model Master bottles are larger. You need not to stick with one particular brand. I use both enamels and acrylics.

Tamiya acrylics are great and spray really nice with airbrush. Other brands :

Life Color

Vallejo (DO NOT thin with alcohol!)

Humbrol

PollyScale (If you can find them)

Aeromaster (another great paint IF you can find them)

Gunze/Mr. Color

Airbrush choices? Go here:

www.tcpglobal.com

You will find a wide variety of brands and choices to choose from.

  • Member since
    March 2016
New Builder Needing Some Help With Paint and Tools
Posted by cbion1 on Tuesday, March 22, 2016 8:43 AM

Hey Guys,

 

I Just started building and painting some aircrafts a few weeks ago and was just looking for some advice.  I picked up Testors enamel based paint (not the model master version but the original paint version, read that there are not major diferences between the two, just the size) and some brushes, knives, jewler files, and other stuff.  I was wondering if this paint is relatively good to use or if acrylic based paints are the way to go? I used the testors enamel primer before painting, and have two shake cans of the enamel based spray for some large area coloring, but if this paint is good to use what would be the best way to clear coat it after it is completed? I picked up the krylon short cuts shake spray based on what the woman at the store recommended but im now reading that come top coats have trouble on enamel due to the temperature difference.  Is there an enamel based spray can that I can top coat with, or some top coat that can be applied with a brush?  I also picked up acrylic wash to fill in some details that I read is OK to use o the enamel paint.  Im hoping that I dont have to toss all the paints I picked up and that they can work.  

 

I was also looking to pick up an airbrush, nothing too crazy and fine, just a beginner model that can be used for large areas, maybe some fine detail.  I read good things about the Iwata HP-CS gravity feed but what style compressor would be needed for this? also can the enamel paint that I am using be used in this airbrush without causing issues.

 

Thanks for the help guys.

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