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Transition time
Posted by bbrowniii on Tuesday, March 16, 2004 4:42 PM
Hope you all can give me some suggestions for a slight problem I have...

I have a Badger 150 (great brush, really like it). However, sometimes I feel like I end up spending more time cleaning and wiping out bottles of paint than I actually do painting with the thing. There are times I actually avoid using it for smaller jobs because I know that cleanup will take so long.

Recently, I have started using windex as a cleaning agent. That seems to help because I can spray a color, do a quick spray of windex, then go on to my next color, but I still feel like I am horribly inefficient.

A second, and related question. I recently received a compressor as a gift (a Cyclone, also by Badger). How vital is a pressure regulator and a water trap?

'All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing' - Edmund Burke (1770 ??)

 

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Posted by uilleann on Tuesday, March 16, 2004 5:44 PM
The airbrush is never going to be a speedy instrument. Period. They are what they are and that's much more than a hand brush...but with the extra fine finish you'll get also comes a higher degree of care and maintenance.

I don't know of any way around a good cleaning job. I've been airbrushing for years and years and much as I don't enjoy the cleaning process, I find the end result afforded with an airbrush far outweighs any troubles to clean them.

Probably not the best answer in the world - but the facts are the facts bud. Best to you.

Bri~
"I may not fly with the eagles.....but weasels don't get sucked into jet engines!"
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Posted by bbrowniii on Tuesday, March 16, 2004 6:33 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by uilleann

I don't know of any way around a good cleaning job. I've been airbrushing for years and years and much as I don't enjoy the cleaning process, I find the end result afforded with an airbrush far outweighs any troubles to clean them.

Probably not the best answer in the world - but the facts are the facts bud. Best to you.

Bri~


I agree with you 100% on the quality of finish with an airbrush. I find that as my skills (slowly) improve, I can do more and more with the brush. Please don't think that I was maligning the power of the airbrush. Far from it. I love mine. But like I said, and as you pointed out, it does come with compromises and I'm just hoping for suggestions on how to maximize my use of the tool.

'All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing' - Edmund Burke (1770 ??)

 

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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, March 16, 2004 6:35 PM
I had the same problem. I wouldn't paint because cleanup seemed too long and I wasn't getting the results I wanted without a lot of work. Try a Gravity feed model, they're much easier to clean that siphon. There are many good models out there, for me, I tried several gravity feed models until my Iwata HP-CS set me free. Now I'll break out the airbrush to paint an ejection seat in 1/72. I believe the Badger 150LG is a gravity feed or Iwata makes the Revolution CR. These are both great brushes at a resonable price.
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Posted by uilleann on Tuesday, March 16, 2004 6:42 PM
Ya know, for me a color cup is a color cup. I guess it's just our points of view of the silly things huh? Approve [^] I've got both types on my two brushes and haven't really ever found one to be superior to another for any reason. They are different it's true...but in the end, you'll still have to clean each one. Trugh be told, I find cleaning the needle on my Mark1 is more difficult than just pulling the nozzle off the Paache H model. They've both been through the ringer, but - much like an old warbird - you don't throw it away once they gather a few dings and nicks and the dirt gets in the seams.

Anyway, sorry if I came off a bit hard earlier Sign - With Stupid [#wstupid] - not my intent at all! Just wanted to illustrate the differences in airbrushing vs. standard hand brushing. One thing I will attest to: It's MUCH easier to clean out white, yellow or red from an airbrish than it ever will be from a bristle brush! Laugh [(-D]

Bri~
"I may not fly with the eagles.....but weasels don't get sucked into jet engines!"
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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, March 16, 2004 6:57 PM
Dedicating a bottle to cleaner will spead up the clean up time. When I use windex I mix it 50/50 with water. I find that spraying this solution between color changes cleans the gun fairly good so you don't have to break it apart and clean it until you are done painting. I would get a pressure regulator and a water trap as soon as you can, they make a big difference.
John
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Posted by MikeV on Tuesday, March 16, 2004 8:02 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by plum1030

I had the same problem. I wouldn't paint because cleanup seemed too long and I wasn't getting the results I wanted without a lot of work. Try a Gravity feed model, they're much easier to clean that siphon. There are many good models out there, for me, I tried several gravity feed models until my Iwata HP-CS set me free. Now I'll break out the airbrush to paint an ejection seat in 1/72. I believe the Badger 150LG is a gravity feed or Iwata makes the Revolution CR. These are both great brushes at a resonable price.


Karl,

Where have you been buddy? I haven't seen you post here in quite a while. I hope all is well my friend. Big Smile [:D]

Mike

Wisdom is the right use of knowledge. To know is not to be wise. Many men know a great deal, and are all the greater fools for it. There is no fool so great a fool as a knowing fool. But to know how to use knowledge is to have wisdom. " Charles Spurgeon
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Posted by bbrowniii on Tuesday, March 16, 2004 9:56 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by uilleann

Anyway, sorry if I came off a bit hard earlier Sign - With Stupid [#wstupid] - not my intent at all! Just wanted to illustrate the differences in airbrushing vs. standard hand brushing. One thing I will attest to: It's MUCH easier to clean out white, yellow or red from an airbrish than it ever will be from a bristle brush! Laugh [(-D]

Bri~


Please, stop! No apologies needed. Smile [:)] Everythings cool. Cool [8D] Besides, I know that if I wade into a fray, I have to be prepared for some lumps Black Eye [B)]

Keep throwing in your My 2 cents [2c] and thanks for your comments...

'All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing' - Edmund Burke (1770 ??)

 

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Posted by uilleann on Tuesday, March 16, 2004 10:00 PM
You got it Boyd. Cool [8D] Please feel free to keep asking questions about anything a.brush related too alright? I may have a pretty non-chalant attitude about them now, but you have to remember, I was a beginner once too. I sure know how NOT to do things anway!

Best!

Brian~
"I may not fly with the eagles.....but weasels don't get sucked into jet engines!"
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