Will Future (Pledge) change color tone of Gunship Gray

Future don't need to be thinned/diluted. Airbrush straight out of the bottle.

All clear glosses tend to darken things a little.

Future is the worst gloss coat for darkening base colors. I find Alclad Aqua gloss does not darken colors at all. 

Nathan,  the more I think about it the more I may avoid future particularly on this big model. I also heard Future can orange peel if the applied "Wetness" isn't optimal, which again may be difficult to control on a model this size. 

I just did some reading on the Alclad. If it's water based, how would using an oil wash thinned with odorless mineral spirits affect it.  It shouldn't but I'm reading it may.

Also does the Alclad Aqua Gloss gloss-up enough to prevent decal silvering? I'm presuming it does. 

Thanks

I have stopped using Future as a gloss coat after it ruined a $500 model. I used Future on a 1/12 scale Ford GT40 MKII. The kit cost $350 and the aftermarket parts cost $150. After about a month the Future started to spider crack. Never again

Wilbur Wright

Nathan,  the more I think about it the more I may avoid future particularly on this big model. I also heard Future can orange peel if the applied "Wetness" isn't optimal, which again may be difficult to control on a model this size. 

I just did some reading on the Alclad. If it's water based, how would using an oil wash thinned with odorless mineral spirits affect it.  It shouldn't but I'm reading it may.

Also does the Alclad Aqua Gloss gloss-up enough to prevent decal silvering? I'm presuming it does. 

Thanks

 

Alclad Aqua Gloss is Lacquer based,not water.

Tojo72

 

 

Wilbur Wright

Nathan,  the more I think about it the more I may avoid future particularly on this big model. I also heard Future can orange peel if the applied "Wetness" isn't optimal, which again may be difficult to control on a model this size. 

I just did some reading on the Alclad. If it's water based, how would using an oil wash thinned with odorless mineral spirits affect it.  It shouldn't but I'm reading it may.

Also does the Alclad Aqua Gloss gloss-up enough to prevent decal silvering? I'm presuming it does. 

Thanks

 

 

 

 

Alclad Aqua Gloss is Lacquer based,not water.

 

alclad Aqua gloss is water based, hence the "Aqua". Alclad does make other gloss coats that are enamels. The aqua gloss is a very nice product. It will give you a nice smooth gloss coat in one heavy application. It dries hard in 24 hours. It's perfect for decalling and for sealing decals. I weather over the top of it with oil paints and washes all the time with no issues. Just keep in mind , with any new product, it will take some practice to figure out just how heavy to apply it and what psi works best for you. I just found it a much better product than future. It's more consistent and is easier to get a smooth, uniform coat. 

Nathan T

 

 

Tojo72

 

 

Wilbur Wright

Nathan,  the more I think about it the more I may avoid future particularly on this big model. I also heard Future can orange peel if the applied "Wetness" isn't optimal, which again may be difficult to control on a model this size. 

I just did some reading on the Alclad. If it's water based, how would using an oil wash thinned with odorless mineral spirits affect it.  It shouldn't but I'm reading it may.

Also does the Alclad Aqua Gloss gloss-up enough to prevent decal silvering? I'm presuming it does. 

Thanks

 

 

 

 

Alclad Aqua Gloss is Lacquer based,not water.

 

 

 

 

alclad Aqua gloss is water based, hence the "Aqua". Alclad does make other gloss coats that are enamels. The aqua gloss is a very nice product. It will give you a nice smooth gloss coat in one heavy application. It dries hard in 24 hours. It's perfect for decalling and for sealing decals. I weather over the top of it with oil paints and washes all the time with no issues. Just keep in mind , with any new product, it will take some practice to figure out just how heavy to apply it and what psi works best for you. I just found it a much better product than future. It's more consistent and is easier to get a smooth, uniform coat. 

 

I further read the description and see you are correct but it's easy to see why I was confused.

It does say Lacquer on the bottle

Tojo, I don't see "enamel" on the label.  It does say lacquer however, and to an old painter such as myself, that would imply a solvent-based product.  It's a confusing way to label their stuff I'd say.

Gary

I have used future on nearly every kit in the last 6 years and never a problem. The cracking may be that it was used over a laquer or enamel that had not sat for many days to gas out the solvent before it was encased in future, causing orange peel. you always should let a hot paint set and cure before glosscoating, maybe a week or more. that is why it is better to apply hot paints over acrylic and not the other way around.

Yes it may darken it some, but I have not seen it to be too significant. I cannot comment on other acrylic clearcoats. i thinh the darkening properties has to do with light refraction though it, not the future darkening it.

Let us know what you choosen and the result.

Oh right Tojo. I never noticed that. Alclad II Lacquer is the brand name of all their products, so yes, confusing. Their other glosses say "contains mineral spirits". 

modelmaker66

I have used future on nearly every kit in the last 6 years and never a problem. The cracking may be that it was used over a laquer or enamel that had not sat for many days to gas out the solvent before it was encased in future, causing orange peel. you always should let a hot paint set and cure before glosscoating, maybe a week or more. that is why it is better to apply hot paints over acrylic and not the other way around.

 

Yes it may darken it some, but I have not seen it to be too significant. I cannot comment on other acrylic clearcoats. i thinh the darkening properties has to do with light refraction though it, not the future darkening it.

 

Let us know what you choosen and the result.

 

modelmaker66

I have used future on nearly every kit in the last 6 years and never a problem. The cracking may be that it was used over a laquer or enamel that had not sat for many days to gas out the solvent before it was encased in future, causing orange peel. you always should let a hot paint set and cure before glosscoating, maybe a week or more. that is why it is better to apply hot paints over acrylic and not the other way around.

 

Yes it may darken it some, but I have not seen it to be too significant. I cannot comment on other acrylic clearcoats. i thinh the darkening properties has to do with light refraction though it, not the future darkening it.

 

Let us know what you choosen and the result.

 

I'm like Nathan in that I no longer use Future for gloss coating. I never had any luck with it at all! I had horrible orange peel or I couldnt get it to spray at all. I switched to also using the Aqua Gloss from Alclad and love the way it coats. I've also used the Model Master clears as well (the acrylic formulas) they are okay, but have to be thinned. I just recently tried using the Gloss Varnish from AK Interactive...I dont really have an opinion on it yet, havent done enough with it to say yes or no. The only downside I've found with the Aqua Gloss is that if the coat isnt thick enough, white spirits will soften it and can cause problems with the paint below, if you've used an enamel.