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Layering, Lacquer, Enamel, and Acrylic Paints

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    July 2016
Layering, Lacquer, Enamel, and Acrylic Paints
Posted by MigMan on Tuesday, July 12, 2016 10:34 PM

Hey Guys,

I am a relitively new modeler and this is my first post on this forum!!

I have heard that Tamiya's primer is one of the best out there and I would like to use it. But it is a lacquer based primer and I use mostly acrylic paints.  I understand that you can layer (but not mix together) paints of different bases but they have to be layered in a specific order.  For instance:

Start with a lacquer based primer; then preshade with an enamel paint; then you could lay down an acrylic base color.

I don't know if the above statement is correct and that is what I am asking you:  Is it correct?

Also, if you were to paint the layers listed above, would it be dangerous to maybe add a layer of enamel based paint on top of the acrylic base? (as if you were doing a camouflage scheme?)

Thanks in advance for your sage advise!!


Joe Miriani

  • Member since
    October 2010
Posted by hypertex on Thursday, July 14, 2016 8:49 AM

MigMan

Start with a lacquer based primer; then preshade with an enamel paint; then you could lay down an acrylic base color.

The statement is basically correct in that it describes one way it could be done, but it doesn't have to be done that way. E.g. you can preshade with acrylic instead of enamel.

What you are referring to is called the LEA rule (Lacquer, Enamel, Acrylic). This describes what is supposedly the only way to layer different paint types. It fails to mention that you can also layer acrylic over acrylic. Personally, I don't use enamels, so this simplifies things for me. 

The problem with the LEA rule is that there are many exceptions. For example, modelers often spray Testors Dullcote over acrylic paint. Since Dullcote is a lacquer, it would seem to violate the rule. But many modelers do it anyway, and will remind you to spray the dullcote in light coats and allow the acrylic paint to fully cure before you spray it.

Another area where the LEA rule fall apart is in brush painting. Lots of figure painters (myself included) brush paint enamls or oils over acrylic paint without problems. But those same figure painters will never paint an acrylic over oil paint. I've even brush painted a lacquer over acrylic, using a different technique.

Basically, if you follow the LEA rule when airbrushing, you won't go wrong. But you are also limiting yourself somewhat. If you are a beginner, following the LEA rule is a good idea. If you wish to 'violate' the rule, always test on scrap plastic or a spare model before you try it for real.

 

  • Member since
    May 2012
  • From: Pennsylvania
Posted by pilotjohn on Thursday, July 14, 2016 1:39 PM

If you are willing to give it a go, try Badger's Stynylrez primer.  Covers well, eay to clean, and sandable.  There are a lot of Youtube videos where you can see guys using it.  It is the only primer I use now. 

John

 

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