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Airbrushing canned Tamiya Fine Surface Primer (L)?

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Airbrushing canned Tamiya Fine Surface Primer (L)?
Posted by scaler on Friday, October 7, 2016 1:45 PM

I plan to airbrush decanted Tamiya Fine Surface Primer (gray), and I understand it's lacquer-based, same as their Liquid Surface Primer, is that correct? If so, I plan to use laquer thinner for thinning and cleanup. In other words, should this primer be treated any different than LSP in that regard?

Another question: can this decanted primer be stored in airtight plastic jars or will I need to use glass ones?

Thank you! Smile

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Posted by Cadet Chuck on Friday, October 7, 2016 6:51 PM

Why do this?  I have found Tamiya primer works just fine, using the spray can.  Just be gentle and spray a light coat.

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Posted by scaler on Sunday, October 9, 2016 10:28 AM

Cadet Chuck

Why do this?

Well, that's a question that has been asked and answered many times before. In short -- to have better control of what you are doing. Spraying from a can would be great for broad indiscriminate coats, also when ventilation is not an issue. However, when you're at your desk or a hobby spray booth, working on something small -- it is a different story.

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Posted by Bakster on Sunday, October 9, 2016 11:07 PM

Scaler--I have decanted TFSP as well, and I did use lacquer thinner to cut it. It worked great, and it is my go-to for primer.

I am not an authority on TFSP, but my understanding is that it is lacquer based. I used a glass jar to store it only because I was not sure if any of my plastic containers would hold up to it.

I have just one other tip. Remember to let it gas out after decanting. It is a real boiling stew at first. Some say that at all those bubbles can cause a person trouble when spraying. So I let it gas out for a few hours. I had no issues by following this process.

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Posted by Phil_H on Monday, October 10, 2016 12:27 AM

Why not just airbrush the bottled Liquid Surface Primer?

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Posted by scaler on Monday, October 10, 2016 10:00 AM

Bakster: Thank you, I did just that yesterday. Used a glass baby food jar, those have very good lids. Hope that the coating on the underside of those lids won't interact with the liquid. Haven't tried cutting or spraying it yet, as I was also fine tuning my compressor.

I didn't decant a lot, so I put the jar into warm water to let the propellant to boil off. Worked like a charm. Smile

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Posted by scaler on Monday, October 10, 2016 10:05 AM

Phil_H: One reason is that Tamiya does not sell its fine gray primer in regular bottles. And some say that it's thinner than LSP, providing smoother finish. Another reason is the cost: my LHS sells these rattle cans for under $7/ea.

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Posted by Bakster on Monday, October 10, 2016 10:47 AM

Scaler: that is great to hear. Yeah that is the beauty of decanting. You can decant what you need and leave the rest for almost indefinitely. I think that in the long-run it is a good value, like what you alluded to. There is a good amount of paint in those little cans. BTW... I used an airbrush jar to store the decanted paint. For bigger jobs, your baby food jars idea should work awesome...

 

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Posted by Tucohoward on Tuesday, October 11, 2016 1:52 PM

scaler
One reason is that Tamiya does not sell its fine gray primer in regular bottles.

Actually they do, item #87075. Excellent primer for sure and at $5 for 40ml it's got to be a much better value than decanting spray cans of the same thing.

Jay

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Posted by BlackSheepTwoOneFour on Wednesday, October 12, 2016 11:07 AM

Or get this stuff:

http://www.squadron.com/Badger-Gray-Primer-2-oz-BGSNR202-p/bgsnr202.htm

My go-to primer instead of decanting....

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Posted by scaler on Wednesday, October 12, 2016 6:57 PM

Tucohoward

Actually they do, item #87075. Excellent primer for sure and at $5 for 40ml it's got to be a much better value than decanting spray cans of the same thing.

 

$5 for 40 ml vs. $7 for 180 ml? Something's wrong with your math, I think. Plus, LSP is not the same as "fine" primer in a can, is it?

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Posted by scaler on Wednesday, October 12, 2016 6:58 PM

BlackSheepTwoOneFour

Or get this stuff:

http://www.squadron.com/Badger-Gray-Primer-2-oz-BGSNR202-p/bgsnr202.htm

My go-to primer instead of decanting.... 

Thanks, I will consider it. Smile

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Posted by Phil_H on Wednesday, October 12, 2016 7:03 PM

scaler
$5 for 40 ml vs. $7 for 180 ml? Something's wrong with your math, I think. Plus, LSP is not the same as "fine" primer in a can, is it?

Once you thin it, it goes a lot further. Also, remember that the 180ml in the spray can includes the propellant. The 40ml in the jar is all primer.

When thinned for airbrushing, LSP goes on silky smooth.

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Posted by Tucohoward on Thursday, October 13, 2016 5:38 PM

scaler
$5 for 40 ml vs. $7 for 180 ml? Something's wrong with your math, I think.

Not an apples to apples comparison. Spray paint is always more expensive than bottled paint per square foot. That 40ml bottle will give me what I would get from several 180ml spray cans. Most of the contents of the spray can is not paint. No free lunches.Smile

Jay 

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