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  • Member since
    January 2009
  • From: hamburg michigan
Posted by fermis on Tuesday, October 25, 2016 1:44 PM

Wilbur Wright

fermis, I never thought to use Minwax.  I'll have to remember that. I use their products extensively in my wood working.

Good tip. Does the Minwax behave just like the MM Laquer? same consistency, gloss etc.?

 

It works just the same. I thin it with whatever store brand lacquer thinner...about 50/50. I saved a couple of the bigger MM bottles to mix my batches in. The only critical thing is...give the model a light coat first...if ya get too heavy with it right away, it can crinkle up the paint.

  • Member since
    June 2014
  • From: New Braunfels , Texas
Posted by Tanker - Builder on Tuesday, October 25, 2016 12:33 PM

Hi;

 There will be no problem glossing the area where decals go .Then spray semi or flat clearcoat overall when done .  T.B.

  • Member since
    February 2006
  • From: Boston
Posted by Wilbur Wright on Tuesday, October 25, 2016 11:39 AM

fermis, I never thought to use Minwax.  I'll have to remember that. I use their products extensively in my wood working.

Good tip. Does the Minwax behave just like the MM Laquer? same consistency, gloss etc.?

  • Member since
    January 2009
  • From: hamburg michigan
Posted by fermis on Tuesday, October 25, 2016 12:17 AM

Wilbur Wright

In my experience you can spot spray the gloss, decal,  and then the  flat will cover the sheen.

I'll warn you that on my last big model plane a 1/72 A-400  the decals silvered badly even with two coats of MM gloss laquer (I had to painstakingly cut out the silvering and gloss over which worked pretty well) , so I'm contemplating using the alclad aqua-2 gloss next time.

You can also spot brush on Future, which would probably eliminate the problem I had, then MM flat laquer as final coats.

One thing to remember when spot brushing is that gloss can slightly change the color variation of the paint, and make it darker. So this would be your decision as to whether you do the whole model or not

 

In addition...if you have Future anyway...it works great under decals. Personally, I gloss everything to prep for decals and following washes. I use Minwax gloss laquer (over MM enamels)...a quart will cost about the same as two little MM/Testors bottles of gloss. I've done close to 200 builds out of the one quart I bought, and I haven't even gotten half way through it yet! When it comes time to do the decals, I'll brush on a little bit of Future, just before applying each decal (instead of Micro-set or similar). Treat the decal just as you normally would, blot out the excess, give it a few minutes and brush on some Micro-sol.

  • Member since
    February 2006
  • From: Boston
Posted by Wilbur Wright on Monday, October 24, 2016 10:37 PM

In my experience you can spot spray the gloss, decal,  and then the  flat will cover the sheen.

I'll warn you that on my last big model plane a 1/72 A-400  the decals silvered badly even with two coats of MM gloss laquer (I had to painstakingly cut out the silvering and gloss over which worked pretty well) , so I'm contemplating using the alclad aqua-2 gloss next time.

You can also spot brush on Future, which would probably eliminate the problem I had, then MM flat laquer as final coats.

One thing to remember when spot brushing is that gloss can slightly change the color variation of the paint, and make it darker. So this would be your decision as to whether you do the whole model or not

  • Member since
    May 2016
Posted by Kyle Lord on Monday, October 24, 2016 11:15 AM
Good deal, Thank you guys. I will gloss coat with confidence. Kyle
  • Member since
    November 2009
  • From: Twin Cities of Minnesota
Posted by Don Stauffer on Monday, October 24, 2016 8:51 AM

Yep, that is the way I do it.  The flat coat applied afterwards almost always makes those gloss areas match other flat areas.  If not, a second dullcoat does it.

 

Don Stauffer in Minnesota

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    April 2013
Posted by KnightTemplar5150 on Sunday, October 23, 2016 11:21 PM

I have to admit that I'm not a ship builder, Kyle, but gloss coating only select parts of a tank in prep for decals is almost a standard procedure. When you only have a couple of decals to apply, it''s fast and normally yeilds a nice, flat finish.

 

 

  • Member since
    May 2016
Spot gloss clearing under flat clear
Posted by Kyle Lord on Sunday, October 23, 2016 10:05 PM

Hello everyone,

Im currently working on a ship that has very few decals. I'll be using model masters gloss and flat clear. Can I spray gloss just where the decals will go or will I have to gloss the entire hull? I'm worried about the gloss peeking through the flat clear. Is this a valid concern or will I be ok?

Thank you

Kyle

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