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Floquil Old Silver alternative?
Posted by Murphy's Law on Wednesday, March 08, 2017 4:18 PM

Looking for a substitute for Floquil old silver since they no longer make it. I have Tamiya XF-16 flat aluminum, how close is that?

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Posted by BlackSheepTwoOneFour on Wednesday, March 08, 2017 6:28 PM

Is it the RR color? A LHS in my area still carries a small rack of Floquil RR colors. I can check and see if he has any in stock.

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Posted by Murphy's Law on Wednesday, March 08, 2017 7:14 PM

I think this was a RR line, I've never used it but read that it was a good color for the painted silver wings on P-51's

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Posted by stikpusher on Wednesday, March 08, 2017 8:10 PM

Yes Old Silver was a Floquil RR color. The pigments in Tamiya's Flat Aluminum are nowhere near as fine. Model Master's Aluminum might be a better option if you are going with Acrylics. If you want to work with enamels, either Humbrol or Model Master Metalizer make buffable and non buffable aluminum shades that would work nicely. Extremely fine grained pigments in those. Once they are sealed they look the part of the aluminum lacquer used on aircraft. 

 

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Posted by plasticjunkie on Wednesday, March 08, 2017 11:06 PM

Humbrol Metalcote Aluminum and Steel buffable enamels are pretty good at giving a realistic metallic tone. 

It's a shame that the Floquil line was discontinued. Their paints were the best specially Old Silver, Platinum Mist, Bright Silver, Engine Black and Caboose Red. I managed to grab a couple of bottles of each color while it was still available.

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Posted by GMorrison on Wednesday, March 08, 2017 11:31 PM

Alclad II is good and it's application characteristics are similar to Floquil.

 

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Posted by GMorrison on Wednesday, March 08, 2017 11:51 PM

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Posted by plasticjunkie on Thursday, March 09, 2017 6:48 AM

Forgot about Alclad. I also tried AK Extreme Metal and I liked how it looked on the test piece.

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Posted by BlackSheepTwoOneFour on Thursday, March 09, 2017 8:22 AM

Well, it looks like a trip to my LHS is in order soon. I am curious on what he has left though. :))

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Posted by Don Stauffer on Thursday, March 09, 2017 9:05 AM

GMorrison

Alclad II is good and it's application characteristics are similar to Floquil.

 

 

I second that.  I stopped using Old Silver when I started using Alclad.  Since there are several sheens available, and varying thickness of application can vary sheen by small amounts, you can get more different effects than with old silver.

Don Stauffer in Minnesota

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Posted by BlackSheepTwoOneFour on Thursday, March 09, 2017 1:33 PM

Managed to stop by the LHS during my lunch hour. He did have Floquil RR Caboose Red but none of the silver except one called Piston Silver. However, I did not leave empty handed. Picked up a couple of bottles of Pactra R/C acrylics: FAA Dark Slate Grey and Japanese Imperial Navy Sky Grey.

I did find a couple of other colors but need to check my paint stash first.

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Posted by BlackSheepTwoOneFour on Friday, March 10, 2017 9:57 PM

Murphy's Law

Looking for a substitute for Floquil old silver since they no longer make it. I have Tamiya XF-16 flat aluminum, how close is that?

 

 

I did a little bit of researching for an alternative for Old Silver and the closest match is Testors German Silver Metallic. Model Master 2714 for enamel bottle, 2914 for spray can.

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Posted by stikpusher on Friday, March 10, 2017 9:59 PM

Blacksheep, is that color in their Auto paints line?

 

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Posted by Murphy's Law on Saturday, March 11, 2017 4:16 AM

BlackSheepTwoOneFour

 

 
Murphy's Law

Looking for a substitute for Floquil old silver since they no longer make it. I have Tamiya XF-16 flat aluminum, how close is that?

 

 

 

 

I did a little bit of researching for an alternative for Old Silver and the closest match is Testors German Silver Metallic. Model Master 2714 for enamel bottle, 2914 for spray can.

 

Thanks Yes

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Posted by Tanker - Builder on Saturday, March 11, 2017 12:51 PM

Here's one for you .

 There is a product called " Min-Wax Buffable " finishes . When you apply it it's a creme .Then you spread it out .Then you start buffing . I did a Y.B.49 that way and I have a situation where I buffed it last about two years ago .It's as silver as foil ! You can clearcoat it with Clear Varnish without it loosing it's sheen .  T.B.

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Posted by BlackSheepTwoOneFour on Saturday, March 11, 2017 4:15 PM

I'm not sure but don't think so. I do remember seeing just recently at a LHS I went to during my lunch hour. 

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Posted by Liegghio on Sunday, March 26, 2017 2:54 PM

I'm down to the last third of a bottle of Old Silver, but Testor's aluminum Metalizer with the clear coat for that paint is pretty close. It is really tough to say exactly what original colors were to the ultimate level of precision. Mixes would sometimes vary, and weathering would change the color.  Museum  restorations may not always be reliable. Last week I was visiting the Chino Planes of Fame museum and the silver lacquer on their P-51 looked more like a gray paint. How accurate was this? Who knows, they certainly didn't use a 60 year old original lacquer to retore the plane.

Their A6M Zero has the translucent blue anti-corrosion coating the wheel wells which also famously controversial to replicate. Is their shade correct? Who knows with certainty.

So realistically like many colors close enough is probably good enough and we can probably not sweat it as much as we doP-51 Wing.

 

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Posted by Silver on Monday, June 12, 2017 8:54 PM

If using it as a base coat you can use Tamiya "Silver Lefe" and it is buffable.It had the same hardness as the old silver from Floquil.It is in spray can form.W/ light coats You will be fine.Dries fast .Seal with Gauzy  shine enchancer which is on the internet.One coat for decals and a final coat to seal.Also Tamiya has Bare Metal Silver.Both are very strong against masking tape.At contest I win Best Metal Finish all the time.I need a tractor trailer to house my metal finish awards.I have never seen a match yet and I travel around  the world.Good Luck.

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Posted by fotofrank on Sunday, June 18, 2017 12:27 PM

I've been using Testors Silver Metallic acrylic for a while now for detailing cockpits with a brush.It's been OK for small stuff like nobs and such. Today, I was trying to paint the fuselage gas tank on my Accurate Miniatures P-51C. The Testors just doesn't lay down evenly with a brush so I've been looking for an aalternative. I looked at the color swatch for the Tamiya XF-16 flat aluminum acrylic and I like the color. I guess I'll get a bottle of that to see how it lays with a brush.

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Posted by modelmaker66 on Sunday, June 18, 2017 2:29 PM

You can try that but Tamiya is horrible to brush.

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Posted by plasticjunkie on Sunday, June 18, 2017 2:37 PM

modelmaker66

You can try that but Tamiya is horrible to brush.

 

Ditto 

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Posted by Murphy's Law on Sunday, June 18, 2017 5:07 PM

modelmaker66

You can try that but Tamiya is horrible to brush.

 

Add a drop or two of Tamiya's acrylic retarder.. works like a charm for brushing 

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Posted by BlackSheepTwoOneFour on Sunday, June 18, 2017 9:43 PM

Never was an issue for me handbrushing small areas using Tamiya paint.

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