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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, April 18, 2004 11:51 PM
Thanks Greg,

I am planning to move air in and out of the drying drawer. At this point, I'm only thinking of venting the drawer out the back of the cabinet (ie. just to the ambient air, not to the paint booth exhaust ducting). I didn't want to connect the drawer to the ducting, just to prevent the fan from pusing air back into the drawer, rather than out. However, as I'm typing, I guess I could vent the drawer upwards into the paint booth, and then the paint booth fan would draw fumes out the same as when I'd be painting?
Murray
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Posted by gregers on Sunday, April 18, 2004 1:54 PM
sounds like a plan to me, please keep us posted as i am planing on doing a spray booth for myself. one thing i would add tho (that you probably know already but others may not) is that most paint dries by evaporation of the solvents (even two pack paints to a certain degree) and they will dry better with warm moving air removing the solvents from the surounding atmosphere so you may need some air ducting from your drying drawer. hope this is of help to you folks and that i am not "preeching to the converted".
Greg
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Posted by M1abramsRules on Saturday, April 17, 2004 1:01 AM
QUOTE: Originally posted by Murray Kish
It'll take several weeks (or more) just because my free time is a bit limited, and although this will be fun, playing with my 18 month old son is WAY more fun!!

looks like you got your priorities straight there murray!! enjoy them while their young!!

I like that idea of the whole painting studio!! I would never have room for even an paint booth so I can only dream. but it sounds like you got the whole system worked out!!! can't wait to hear what happens!!!
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Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, April 17, 2004 12:39 AM
Yep, that's the idea. I just didn't clarify that in the write-up. Plan to use 6" ducting out the basement window.

Murray
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Posted by Keyworth on Wednesday, April 14, 2004 5:31 PM
Murray, sounds like you have a pretty decent plan worked out. Just make sure you have adequate outside ventilation with your lash-up. Just filtering it through a one way filter won't disperse all the volatile fumes.
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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, April 14, 2004 4:30 PM
Hi guys,

Thanks for the comments. Just wanted to let you know that this project will be a 'go', but it won't get under way for several weeks. I'll keep you posted...

Murray
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Posted by pingtang on Monday, April 12, 2004 7:01 AM
Genious
-Daniel
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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, April 11, 2004 11:35 PM
its great/genious!

personally, i would build one... seems easy. buy some cheapass 1/8th aluminum, bend to shape, use mig welder/oxy acetyline, slice circular hole in back, put fan, put lights in fromt, connect, $50 or less
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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, April 11, 2004 2:12 PM
I am new to modeling and looking for ideas; your's is excellent. What would you use for a fan and filters (if you didn't want to have to vent it outside)?
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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, March 26, 2004 12:10 PM
Well, thanks to your encouragement, this project is now in motion...

I've started picking up various materials (including the cabinet) and intend to go-ahead with this. I'll post progress pics and descriptions along the way. Got some new 'tweaks' that I think you'll like. It'll take several weeks (or more) just because my free time is a bit limited, and although this will be fun, playing with my 18 month old son is WAY more fun!!

Quick question: does anyone know if you can put a 'dimmer' on low-voltage (12v) puck-style halogen lights? Is it relatively simple/cheap, or ultra complicated...

Murray
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Posted by KJ200 on Friday, March 26, 2004 3:08 AM
Sounds like a great idea to me.

I keep looking at those stainless stell bathroom trollies thinking if i put a box on top for a booth, I could put my compressor in the bottom, with storage space in between for dying models and paints. Better still I's be able to wheel it all away under the stairs when I finished rather than packing everything up after each spraing session.

There's a market out their people!!!

Karl

Currently on the bench: AZ Models 1/72 Mig 17PF

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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, March 25, 2004 10:15 PM
It's insanely Genius!!!
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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, March 25, 2004 8:07 AM
Excellent ! ..let's see it when you're done modifying it.

Cheers !
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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, March 24, 2004 8:32 PM
Thanks guys.

ArmorMaster - you are definitely right on the 'size'. The whole thing is about 22" wide so projects are limited to something that will reasonably fit and rotate around in that space. I don't really have any interest in the really big stuff though, so I'm thinking this would satisfy 99.9% of my ongoing projects. Other builders would need something bigger.

I struggled a bit with the legspace thing too. In my situation though, the way I'm doing my airbrushing now isn't much different to how this would end up. I guess I *could* leave the doors off and just not put anything in the storage compartment underneith??

Whenever I get my basement developed, I'm planning to build a decent combined desk/paint area, but until then, I think this is about the best I could hope for.

I'm pitching the idea to the loan officer (ie. the Bank of Wife) tonight. Wish me luck!! I'll probably have to get a co-signer for any amount over $50, but the mother-in-law owes me a favour!! I may not get started on the project for several weeks, so please continue to post your thoughts.

Murray

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Posted by shermanfreak on Wednesday, March 24, 2004 7:45 PM
I think it certainly has potential Murray.
Happy Modelling and God Bless Robert
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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, March 24, 2004 6:46 PM
Well, sounds good. It seems this invention would be useful for traveling modelers or modelers with small rooms. I don't know, little iffy. There might not be enough room in the spray booth for large projects, such as Trumpeter's 1/32 F-105g-I had to extend my booth just to barely fit the dog in there! I think the drying booth in the drawer is genious!Cool [8D] That would be awsome to put your models in a drawer to dry where nothing would interfer with them! Again though, you'd need to have more space for large models. The biggest problem is there is no leg room. It's the hardest thing in the world to be far away from the model. Another good idea would be to have a hinged piece of wood that would come down in front of the bottom cabinet doors so that way you could build your models there and have some leg room. That still doesn't solve the leg room problem when airbrushing though. But I think the principle is genious, but it would still need some improvement in some areas. It's great to see people thinking of ways to help fellow modelers.Cool [8D]
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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, March 24, 2004 6:39 PM
Sounds like a good plan to me .

Walt
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Genious? or Insane?
Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, March 24, 2004 5:24 PM
Some of you may have read an earlier thread about my plans to build a paint drying booth here http://www.finescale.com/fsm/community/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=16408

I went to get some materials today (to build the drying booth) and stumbled on another idea. Perhaps it's genious. Perhaps it's entirely stupid. Thus I present it here for your unbiased comments and thoughts:

Background:
- I don't have a spray booth yet, and need one soon
- I want to have a drying booth, but don't have one of those either
- I'd like to have a place to take pictures of my projects
- I hate too much clutter

Inspiration:
- there was another guy who used a utility cabinet or something a while back to build a paint booth. Couldn't find the thread, but he essentially used a small 'pantry' cabinet or something....
- walking around Canadian Tire when I saw this (on sale for $70):


The plan:
- make the above shown 'microwave cart' into a nice little painting station, complete with drying booth and photo studio.

The details:
- the 'cart' opening would be the paint booth. no complexity here, just put a fan and some sort of filter on the back wall and I think she'd be pretty good to go.
- I'd install some lights along the inside top to light the work area. I was thinking of using those halogen undershelf 'puck' lights? That might be a little too 'hot' for use around solvents, so perhaps a undercounter flourescent instead.
- the 'drawer' would be converted to a drying booth. I'd buy a piece of plexiglass to cover the drawer, and install a small light bulb/fan in the back of the drawer to generate some heat and circulate air. I'd likely have to cut a hole in the back of the cabinet too to exchange air from the drawer outside of the cabinet. Possibly a 'vent' (with filter) in the front of the cabinet drawer that would be the air 'intake'. The drawer would be plenty big enough for 99% of the stuff that I would ever build.
- I'd cut a piece of bristle board that could temporarily be put into the 'paint booth' section and serve as a background for photos. The already mentioned 'lighting' would light the subject for taking photos. Additional outside lights could be added too if needed.
- the bottom storage section could be for.....storage? My air tank and fridge compressor would fit in there pretty nicely. The top of the unit would also be a nice little shelf for various spray boms and other related goodies.

Well, what do you think? Genious... or total insanity? I'm interested in your honest thoughts (what am I missing?) and ideas that might make this better. One of the key drivers here is that I really like well built and organized tools. Clutter is my kryptonite (although somedays I feel like I'm killing myself...) I was about to build the seperate drying booth (from the above thread) and I just kept trying to figure out where I was going to put it. Then, as I thought more about also building a spray booth, I kept wondering where I was going to put all of this stuff...

It just seems too easy? What am I missing??

Murray


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