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Help with clear flat coat on my 1/9 scale bust

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Help with clear flat coat on my 1/9 scale bust
Posted by Irish3335 on Friday, April 28, 2017 4:21 PM

help!  I finished my 1/9 scale young minatures WWI trench raider, and when I painted him with my supposed Floquil military "flat finish" paint he came out glossy and looked like he came out of a torrent of rain - I went back and did several coats of Testors rattle can flat, but it still looks glossy - I want to get a dead flat finish (for both the figure and the base) but don't want to keep going back with paint that doesn't work - any suggestion? 

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Posted by BlackSheepTwoOneFour on Friday, April 28, 2017 9:00 PM

Hmm... did you stir the bottom of the paint bottle before you painted the figures? A lot of time sediments sits on the bottom and settles. Without stirring it up to loosen it and shaking it thoroughly will give your paint a glossy look. This sounds like a classic case of not stirring and shaking the paint first before painting.

Best bet is strip the paint off and start over.

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Posted by Irish3335 on Friday, April 28, 2017 9:34 PM

Yep, stirred the original flat paint to mix it thoroughly - and shook the rattle can for full 5 minutes before spraying - it is unfortunately not a tank where I can strip it of paint, it took me months to add layers of paint to do different textures and colors in the face and helmet - if I keep going will I finally get the paint to lay on it flat?

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  • From: Indiana, USA
Posted by Greg on Friday, April 28, 2017 9:40 PM

If Mike Brindos doesn't see this, you might PM him. He's a figure expert and I'll bet he'll have sound advice.

I'm baffled that the Dullcoat didn't work. I haven't used it for years, but back when I was using it is was totally reliable.

Ever tried Alclad flat clear?

-Greg

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  • From: Twin Cities of Minnesota
Posted by Don Stauffer on Saturday, April 29, 2017 10:29 AM

Put on flat paints very thin (not the  paint/thinner ratio, but how thin the coating is.  It should go on dry, very little paint each coat, use several coats. Keep brush pretty dry. Also, dullcoat must be applied in thin, dry coats, or it will look semi-gloss.

 

In fact, gloss coat put on too thin looks semi-gloss as well.

Don Stauffer in Minnesota

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  • From: Indiana, USA
Posted by Greg on Saturday, April 29, 2017 11:29 AM

I got to thinking later maybe you laid down the dullcoat too heavy, from too close just as Don mentioned.

 

-Greg

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Posted by Irish3335 on Saturday, April 29, 2017 3:38 PM
Got it thanks all for the advise I'll try he the thin coats!
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Posted by Irish3335 on Sunday, April 30, 2017 6:48 PM

ok last question:  working on an old screamin vinyl kit (Boba Fett) - I learned the hard way years ago to not use anything but water based paints! So my question is to flatten him down what is a safe flat clear to use?  I gave the base of the figure a solid water based coat and thought I would be safe to paint oils over it ( i was wrong)- fortunately I was able to fix it, but don't want to risk the rest of the model with the wrong paint - any suggestions? 

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  • From: Twin Cities of Minnesota
Posted by Don Stauffer on Monday, May 01, 2017 9:24 AM

I find on many vinyls, even some water based paint is a problem.

However, I have used Testors Dullcoat lacquer works on many acrylics when they are completely dry.  I know this shouldn't work, but it does.  I wonder if that stuff dries so fast the paint doesn't have enough time to be bothered.  Try a test by painting a piece of scrap with the paint, letting it thoroughly dry for a day or two, and then try the spray can Dullcoat on it.  Again, a quick, dry coat.

 

 

Don Stauffer in Minnesota

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Posted by Irish3335 on Monday, May 01, 2017 9:57 PM

Thanks Don, much appreciated 

 

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