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  • Member since
    November 2013
Best metallic?
Posted by bstarr3 on Thursday, June 1, 2017 10:43 AM

Looking for a recommendation for metallic paints.  I'm not brave enough to try a NMF.  I'm just looking for good general purpose metallic paints, especially for engines.  Model Masters acrylics have not been to my satisfaction.  The Testors square bottle flat steel enamel was a definite improvement, but I'm just wondering if there are preferences from amongst the many different options.  Vallejo metal color, Mr Metal color, AK extreme, MM metallizers, Alclad? Something else? 

  • Member since
    November 2009
  • From: Twin Cities of Minnesota
Posted by Don Stauffer on Friday, June 2, 2017 9:41 AM

Different paints for different purposes.  There is no single paint that can represent all bare metal surfaces.

For engines, water cooled aircraft engines were generally painted on all surfaces. On aircooled radials, the gear cover was painted.  All these painted surfaces are done with regular hobby paints- I personally like Testors enamels.

For the exterior- the main airframe, it depends on what you want in the finished plane- heavily weathered or fresh out of the shop.  For weathered aluminum, Testors flat aluminum does quite well.  For different shades, I often mix their Steel color with the Flat Aluminum, from just a drop or two of steel, to more steel than aluminum.  For darker metals Testors gunmetal is nice, and other colors can be mixed with it.

Another type of paint that comes in metallic colors useful for simulating bare metal are auto spray paints saying something like charcoal metallic.

For weathered dark steel I often prime with a dark gray primer, the flatter the better, then drybrush a thin coating of Testors steel.  One can also dry brush on an even thinner coat of rust or dark red for just a shade of rust.  The drybrushed dark gray is great for many exhaust manifolds and pipes.

When you do get ready to tackle something for NMF, like Alclad (my favorite), follow the eternal advice you will see so often in these forums- practice on scrap plastic before using on a good kit.  No one does that great of a job on their first Alclad finish.  Also, when you do, the secret to a great Alclad finish is the subcoat.  Ordinary paint covers some sins, though not a multitude.  Alclad reveals every sin.

 

Don Stauffer in Minnesota

  • Member since
    February 2012
Posted by Liegghio on Saturday, June 3, 2017 6:05 PM

Another thing I found with Alclad is that unlike Testors Metallizers, you get the best result by airbrushing just barely enough. Applying more after you get the look you want "to be safe" seems to reduce the realism of the metallic finish. Testors seems OK with extra applied and you can buff off the extra if needed. Alclad seems to get its durability from etching itself into the primer so, just barely enough is still very durable, but too much attacks the primer.

It would be interesting to hear if anyone else has the same experience I have had.

  • Member since
    November 2008
  • From: Far Northern CA
Posted by mrmike on Saturday, June 3, 2017 9:23 PM

Don covered most of what I could contribute. My experience is that the Testors Metallizers "polish" well; I believe they have a wax component that enables that. Alclad provides a finish that can build in thin layers and accomplish a wide tonal variance, especially usefull in jet exhaust and other multitone situations.

When using Alclad I try to stop short of "perfect" and look at the dried result. It's a valuable tool in the kit.

Mike

  • Member since
    December 2013
  • From: Orlando Florida
Posted by route62 on Thursday, June 8, 2017 10:53 PM

When I do NMF, be it the airframe, engines or other small parts, prep is key.

Don is right, every flaw will show.  Once assembly, filling and sanding is done:

  1. I sand all filled and mated parts with 2000 grit sandpaper
  2. Spray primer achiving a very smooth coat as I can get
  3. Fix any issues, fill, sand, and again sand with 2000 grit
  4. Prime again, if issues are fixed sand with 2000-4000 and sometimes 6000
  5. Spray gloss black base coat
  6. Sand with 6000-8000 and sometimes 10000
  7. I am sold on alclad so I then shoot the base metal color
  8. Wait 24 hours, mask off different panels
  9. Spray gloss black on the masked off panels
  10. Using different alclad mettalics spray the different panels to get the different hues found on NMF aircraft.

This may be overkill in prep but i find the effort worth it with a beautiful finish.

  • Member since
    February 2006
  • From: Boston
Posted by Wilbur Wright on Friday, June 9, 2017 11:05 AM

I've  always used Model Master enamels, however I am looking forward to using the AK Extreme Metal line.  I haven't used them yet but they look promising on all the Youtube vids.  I would check those out to see for yourself.

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