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  • From: Pottsboro,Tx
Air brush advice
Posted by Mars on Thursday, August 10, 2017 9:13 PM

I have a Master airbrush g-23 and needed to paint a large model. The g-23 never would have done that so I used rattle cans. I thought I needed a spray gun, instead I ordered and got a Paache-VL with .5 , .7 and 1.0. This brush really can hog out the paint. I was surprised and could have painted the B-52 with this brush. Now I see how little paint flow the G-23 has. The VL with the .5 needle puts out 10x the paint than the G-23 with the .5 needle. I now need an airbrush that is in between the G-23 and the VL, as the VL is too much for a lot of the things I paint and the G-23 will be used for very small  small stuff only. What brush, with gravity feed, will give a paint flow rate that falls between the G-23 and the VL? 

 

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  • From: Orlando Florida
Posted by route62 on Thursday, August 10, 2017 9:46 PM

You don't need another airbrush, you need to get smaller tips and needles for your vl.  I have a paasche vsr90 which uses the same needles and tips as vl series.  Get a .2 and .3 needle and tip and you are all set.

Before buying more airbrushes, master the ones you have so you can then make an informed purchase next time.  I built a 1/48 b-29 with 3 ft wing span and never went over a .3 size.

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  • From: Pottsboro,Tx
Posted by Mars on Thursday, August 10, 2017 10:13 PM

route62

You don't need another airbrush, you need to get smaller tips and needles for your vl.  I have a paasche vsr90 which uses the same needles and tips as vl series.  Get a .2 and .3 needle and tip and you are all set.

Before buying more airbrushes, master the ones you have so you can then make an informed purchase next time.  I built a 1/48 b-29 with 3 ft wing span and never went over a .3 size.

 

Sounds good, thank you

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  • From: Pottsboro,Tx
Posted by Mars on Friday, August 11, 2017 2:06 PM

route62

You don't need another airbrush, you need to get smaller tips and needles for your vl.  I have a paasche vsr90 which uses the same needles and tips as vl series.  Get a .2 and .3 needle and tip and you are all set.

Before buying more airbrushes, master the ones you have so you can then make an informed purchase next time.  I built a 1/48 b-29 with 3 ft wing span and never went over a .3 size.

 

Ive been looking for the .2 and .3 needle but am confused with how Paasche describes their needles. Some are size 1, 3 and 5. Some are called fine and medium.  The size 1, 3 and 5 are the .5, .7 and 1.0, I believe. Are the fine and medium the .2 and .3?

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  • From: Virginia
Posted by Wingman_kz on Saturday, August 12, 2017 9:46 AM
Maybe a Talon...

            

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Posted by Paul Budzik on Saturday, August 12, 2017 12:49 PM

To a large extent, stated needle and nozzle size don't mean a lot.  The first part of the video might give you a better understanding (by the way, it is Iwata tech approved) ...

 

 

Paul

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Posted by JMorgan on Wednesday, August 16, 2017 1:54 AM

I agree with Wingman. I have a Paasche H, VL and Talon. The Talon is a gravity feed airbrush that you can do thingS with that are unique. Since it is gravity fed, you can use low pressures and thinner paints since you don't siphon up paint like the H or VL, which require higher pressures. You can achieve fine detail and thin lines with the Talon or any gravity fed airbrush. Hope this helps.

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  • From: Virginia
Posted by Wingman_kz on Wednesday, August 16, 2017 3:32 AM
The Talon has a good size cup and can use a wide range of needle and tip sizes along with a fan cap. The latest model also has an air control valve and slightly finer tip with a polished needle. I don't own one but soon as I'm set up in the new house it will be my next purchase.

            

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  • From: Pottsboro,Tx
Posted by Mars on Wednesday, August 16, 2017 10:19 PM

tHANKS FOR THE INPUT

 

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  • From: Chicago area
Posted by modelmaker66 on Wednesday, August 16, 2017 11:20 PM

If you have not mastered the use / art of an airbrush yet, change of any kind will set you even further back. You need to be perfectly comfortable with the paints you use, the thining ratios, air pressures, distance, movement and especially your airbrush itself to judge what you need and to accurately evaluate your needs.You also need to be sure that the airbrush is as clean as can be when you paint and that needle, tip and cap are all in good shape and free from defects.

I tried the replace and change game with myself for the first few years of airbrushing. It was expensive and frustrating. Then someone gave me this same advice. I have had the same Badger Patriot for many years and have added a Badger Krome that I am still learning with but I am understanding that it is probobly not the airbrush causing poor results. It's me and what I am doing incorrectly. Let us know how you do.

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