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Royal Navy, Western Approach paint set from Lifecolor

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  • From: Quebec, Canada
Royal Navy, Western Approach paint set from Lifecolor
Posted by SgtDannySgt on Monday, September 4, 2017 1:47 PM

Hello everyone

I purchased this paint set and began using one of its colours today. I diluted the hull red 50/50 and used it on the hull of the warship I am building. I found that the paint appeared too liquid and was "sliding off" for a lack of a better term. I then used the hull red without diluting it and found it did a better job of adhering to the plastic. The instructions states to dilute only with Lifecolor thinner or water. I used Tamiya thinner so that may have been my issue.

I then used that same paint to paint 2 parts I had missed. I used it from the bottle with a small paint brush and found the paint was again "thin" and at points appeared to be "sliding off" again.

Am I doing something wrong? Bad paint? The bottle was mixed thoroughly with a toothpick and looks fine. Thanks for your inputs guys.

Danny

Building 1/144 H.M.C.S. Snowberry by Revell of Germany

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Posted by GMorrison on Monday, September 4, 2017 3:05 PM

I'm building that model too!

I haven't tried Lifecolor, but this would be the right place for that paint set.

I do find though that I really only get good results when I stick to the manufacturers thinner. Esp. for Tamiya acrylics.

I've tried distilled water and alcohol with Tamiya and Model Master acrylics and created some real messes. Alcohol and water used to work with the old Polly S acrylics, but IMO it's not worth it.

Also, did you prime the hull? Primer is really a must.

 Modeling is an excuse to buy books.

 

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  • From: Quebec, Canada
Posted by SgtDannySgt on Monday, September 4, 2017 3:38 PM
Thanks for your reply. No primer, wasn't aware that primer was necessary on model kits, but I do now. Should I be using primer on every model I build? Thanks again. Danny

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Posted by GMorrison on Monday, September 4, 2017 3:58 PM

Yes you should. It doesn't have to be more than a cover coat, and if you can avoid getting it on the gluing surfaces it makes using solvent type cement easier. You can't bond painted parts with it. 

But you can remove paint on gluing surfaces with a quick scrape of a knife, or a swipe with a sanding stick.

Or use superglue. It works on painted parts pretty well.

My favorite primer for models that matter a lot to me is Tamiya white lacquer primer in the rattle can. it's a little spendy though, at $ 9 a can. They sell a less expensive, and not quite as smooth, gray primer too.

It used to be a thing that plastic needed to be washed to remove oils. I don't run into that with models from the big companies like Revell anymore, so I don't bother. Others do.

I like white primer. it's because most colored paints are formulated as a mix of pigments against white. So you get the best true color.

I suppose that white primer in a couple of coats c ould also become the white ship color. No reason why not.

I plan to prime my corvette with Rustoleum Red. Because I plan to 'beat up' the colors to expose the primer all over.

 Modeling is an excuse to buy books.

 

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  • From: Quebec, Canada
Posted by SgtDannySgt on Tuesday, September 5, 2017 2:07 PM
Thanks for the information. At my next visit to the hobby shop I will buy some primer. I used the white color today from this paint set and found it thicker than the red hull color. Looks like I will be thinning out or with water when airbrushing the white on the hull. Danny

Building 1/144 H.M.C.S. Snowberry by Revell of Germany

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Posted by GMorrison on Tuesday, September 26, 2017 12:52 AM

I'm building that kit. I am glad you posted the problem as I see what may be the issue. The plastic is really hard, and the hull parts have a gloss finish.

I'm going to rough it up a little before I prime and paint.

 

Thanks for the heads up.

 Modeling is an excuse to buy books.

 

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Posted by crazypat on Tuesday, September 26, 2017 1:58 AM
if you use vallejo primer it sticks to anything including shiny metal and you don't have to do anything to the surface before hand
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  • From: Quebec, Canada
Posted by SgtDannySgt on Tuesday, September 26, 2017 10:23 AM
OK thanks for the tip. I am heading to the hobby shop this afternoon and I will pick some up. I tried again to airbrush the hull red and same result.... and this time I painted over primer. The primer sticks but not the paint. I thinned it with water at the ratio of 1:1 and it was too liquid. I then did 0.5:1 and again too liquid. Am just about to lose patience with this paint kit and throw it in the garbage.

Building 1/144 H.M.C.S. Snowberry by Revell of Germany

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    October 2015
  • From: Quebec, Canada
Posted by SgtDannySgt on Tuesday, September 26, 2017 10:01 PM
I purchased some Vallejo thinner. While at the hobby shop, I also purchased a can of Tamiya TS-33 and used it over the hull and it did a fine job. Lesson learned!

Building 1/144 H.M.C.S. Snowberry by Revell of Germany

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