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Posted by mandrake on Saturday, March 27, 2004 1:15 PM
Hello, i am planning to get a new airbrush, right now i have the Badger 150 and works great for me, but i want to get something else, so my question is: in your opinion which one would be the best airbrush? Big Smile [:D]

thanks in advance Smile [:)]
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Posted by MikeV on Saturday, March 27, 2004 1:40 PM
Hector,

There is no "best" airbrush, only what works best for you.
We can try and help you choose another one but you will get several different answers as to which is best.
What do you want it for?

Mike

Wisdom is the right use of knowledge. To know is not to be wise. Many men know a great deal, and are all the greater fools for it. There is no fool so great a fool as a knowing fool. But to know how to use knowledge is to have wisdom. " Charles Spurgeon
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Posted by mandrake on Saturday, March 27, 2004 5:12 PM
i mostly build aircraft in 1/48, and as i said before i am very comfortable with my badger 150 but i would like to try another airbrush, the thing is that i dont know what to get, what i dont like of my bager is that it has a lot of plastic things inside, so someone out here may suggest me something or maybe you Mike could suggest me another badger airbrush, a better one or just a diferent one Big Smile [:D]

thanks in advance
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Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, March 27, 2004 8:19 PM
What plastic parts are inside youe Badger 150. There is only a teflon needle bearing and a rubber seal in the airvalve everything else is metal, this is the same with most other airbrushes except the Aztek. The Badger 155 is a nice brush, the 100 LG would also be a nice addition to your 150 as many of the parts are the same. Maybe try another brand such as the Iwata Eclipse the large gravity feed or the bottom feed one. The Omni 4000 or 5000 are really nice too. There are a lot of nice airbrushes out there.
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Posted by MikeV on Saturday, March 27, 2004 8:44 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by jfrejo

What plastic parts are inside youe Badger 150. There is only a teflon needle bearing and a rubber seal in the airvalve everything else is metal, this is the same with most other airbrushes except the Aztek. The Badger 155 is a nice brush, the 100 LG would also be a nice addition to your 150 as many of the parts are the same. Maybe try another brand such as the Iwata Eclipse the large gravity feed or the bottom feed one. The Omni 4000 or 5000 are really nice too. There are a lot of nice airbrushes out there.


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I think John answered that nicely. Big Smile [:D]Wink [;)]

Mike

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Posted by MusicCity on Saturday, March 27, 2004 9:06 PM
Also keep in mind that a great paint job is about 90% painter and 10% airbrush. Put the worst airbrush made in the hands of a great painter and the best airbrush made in the hands of a clutz like me and guess who will have the better paint job!

If the airbrush you have does everything you want, my advice would be to stick with it. Take the money you were going to spend on a new one and get a couple of junk models to practice on.
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Posted by saltydog on Saturday, March 27, 2004 10:30 PM
well said scott.
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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, March 28, 2004 12:11 AM
not me.... i have M4D 5ki11z!111!! with an aztek a220, i can use it better than my 370 [:|] true.... now with a paasche H, i like it more than the aztek, and the badger 100: comparable to the hp-c in my hands.. not too skilled tho, aztek 370 with the purpleish nozzle min width: 1/16 @ 35psi.. no regulator
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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, March 28, 2004 5:27 AM
QUOTE: Originally posted by MusicCity

Also keep in mind that a great paint job is about 90% painter and 10% airbrush. Put the worst airbrush made in the hands of a great painter and the best airbrush made in the hands of a clutz like me and guess who will have the better paint job!

You are so right!! at our yearly model competion we have a german woman hwo makes a living from airbrushing and she uses an airbrush that costs less than 200 $ ( Harder & Steenbeck evolution...not sold in the USA )
And she allways says you can buy the most expensive Iwata airbrush.....If you don't know how to use it, its money out the window.
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Posted by MusicCity on Sunday, March 28, 2004 8:31 AM
Glad you guys agree. Wink [;)]

You need to have good tools, but there is a point where buying "Something Better" accomplishes nothing but making you feel discouraged. "I just bought a brand new expensive airbrush! Why can't I paint thinner lines??" In my case it's usually because the tools I had were already better than I am and getting something better didn't help.
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Posted by MikeV on Sunday, March 28, 2004 9:48 AM
How true that is Scott.
You may or may not remember this illustration by Paul Corfield that I posted several months back, but he painted this with an airbrush that gets a lot of bad rap.......The Aztek! Wink [;)]



Mike

Wisdom is the right use of knowledge. To know is not to be wise. Many men know a great deal, and are all the greater fools for it. There is no fool so great a fool as a knowing fool. But to know how to use knowledge is to have wisdom. " Charles Spurgeon
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Posted by MusicCity on Sunday, March 28, 2004 10:39 AM
I humbly rest my case! Bow [bow]
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Posted by lizardqing on Sunday, March 28, 2004 11:29 AM
Ok now I know what my airbrush can do, guess I'll stop blameing it now for bad paint jobs.
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Posted by saltydog on Sunday, March 28, 2004 9:42 PM
that is truely amazing that is. wow.Wow!! [wow]Wow!! [wow]Shock [:O]Shock [:O]Thumbs Up [tup]Thumbs Up [tup]
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Posted by Torio on Monday, March 29, 2004 4:18 AM
QUOTE: Originally posted by monrad

QUOTE: Originally posted by MusicCity

Also keep in mind that a great paint job is about 90% painter and 10% airbrush. Put the worst airbrush made in the hands of a great painter and the best airbrush made in the hands of a clutz like me and guess who will have the better paint job!

You are so right!! at our yearly model competion we have a german woman hwo makes a living from airbrushing and she uses an airbrush that costs less than 200 $ ( Harder & Steenbeck evolution...not sold in the USA )
And she allways says you can buy the most expensive Iwata airbrush.....If you don't know how to use it, its money out the window.


Just a little thing : Evolutions are in the same quality range as big Badgers ( or T&C ) or Iwata and they cost around 100 Euros only in Germany; they can be set with 0.15 needles, so for the ultrafine side if this makes any sense, and they are very beautiful tools.

As I am here writing this, I would like to add that I find that Aztek may be fragile and a little on the cheap side as far as construction is concerned, but I like them ( I still have an old 1001 ); on the opposite, I once owned a VSR90 Paasche; and I mean once as I tried it one day and sold it back as I thought it was a piece of crap, while a friend of mine likes it a lot. An endless matter of subjectivity at the end.

Thank you all for coming José

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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, March 29, 2004 6:35 PM
Hey MikeV can you host an image for me? it hast to do with what an aztek can do Wink [;)]

and i WILL email it to testors when i have it scanned
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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, March 29, 2004 9:34 PM
What is a good thinner for acrylic paint on aircraft models. I usually work with enamels, but would like to try acrylics.
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Posted by saltydog on Monday, March 29, 2004 11:29 PM
QUOTE: What is a good thinner for acrylic paint on aircraft models. I usually work with enamels, but would like to try acrylics.


polyscale or mm acryl = distilled water
tamiya acrylics = tamiya brand thinner
havent tried any of the other brands.
Chris The Origins of Murphy's Law: "In the begginning there was nothing, and it exploded."!!! _________ chris
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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, March 30, 2004 9:02 PM
iso works
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Posted by MikeV on Tuesday, March 30, 2004 9:11 PM
For Model Master Acryl I have had good results with a 50/50 mix of water/iso alcohol mixed in a 2:1 ratio of paint to thinner. Some of the colors spray just fine out of the bottle.

Mike

Wisdom is the right use of knowledge. To know is not to be wise. Many men know a great deal, and are all the greater fools for it. There is no fool so great a fool as a knowing fool. But to know how to use knowledge is to have wisdom. " Charles Spurgeon
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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, March 30, 2004 9:31 PM
To add to what torio had to say. I ordered a H&S Evolution2 in 1 a few years ago. For most people in the US who have never heard of it or seen one it is indeed a qulity airbrush. This airbrush has about the nicest finish I have ever seen on a airbrush and has a clever trigger design. The airbrush is versitle- it has different size cup attachments a nice nozzle design. For the guys who think the Iwata is the best, I think a lot of you would convert after trying this airbrush.
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Posted by MikeV on Tuesday, March 30, 2004 10:58 PM
John,

Is that the black model or the chrome version?
I like the H&S Evolutions but finding parts would be a pain when you need them.

Mike

Wisdom is the right use of knowledge. To know is not to be wise. Many men know a great deal, and are all the greater fools for it. There is no fool so great a fool as a knowing fool. But to know how to use knowledge is to have wisdom. " Charles Spurgeon
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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, April 4, 2004 9:59 PM
Sorry for the delayed response, I have the chrome one, the black one is a special edition. Yes, parts are difficult to get but I ordered an extra nozzle and needle set when I got it. I have yet to wear out any of the original parts. If your willing to order from Europe it is not that much more difficult than ordering in the states. I have not had to pay any outrages shipping fee's either because all the stuff I have bought was sent through the postal service of the country I bought it from.
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Posted by MikeV on Sunday, April 4, 2004 10:12 PM
Thanks for the response John.

I may try one some day.

Mike

Wisdom is the right use of knowledge. To know is not to be wise. Many men know a great deal, and are all the greater fools for it. There is no fool so great a fool as a knowing fool. But to know how to use knowledge is to have wisdom. " Charles Spurgeon
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Posted by Torio on Monday, April 5, 2004 11:16 AM
And you don't even know Gabbert, do you ? Just take a look at their site :
http//www.gabbert-airbrushtechnik.de ; it is ... spezial.

Thank you all for coming José

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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, April 6, 2004 8:13 AM
Well...lots of replies to this one since had I had a look at it the last time.
First of all jfrejo, did you buy your Evolution in the US? I didn't think they were sold in the US, How much did it cost? I payed 195 $ for mine.
And to Torio. I have never had the chance to compare Iwata and Evolution, but I like my Evolution so much that I've never thought about getting an Iwata, but I am happy to hear that you think they are just as good. And yes they are beautiful.
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