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Alclad applied over MM metalizer?

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  • Member since
    February, 2003
  • From: Green Bay, WI USA
Alclad applied over MM metalizer?
Posted by echolmberg on Wednesday, October 04, 2017 10:30 AM

Hi guys!

I saw an article somewhere on the world wide web where a guy used Alclad Gunmetal as his basecoat rather than Alclad's gloss black.  So last night I was painting the horizontal stabilizers (still on the sprue) of my P-47 and I was thinking "Hey!  I'll give the gunmetal color a try, too."  So I used the MM gunmetal from the rattle can.  After I applied it, I immediately thought "Hmmm...the other guy used Alclad as his base coat.  I'm using Model Master metalizer.  Will the Alclad top coat be adversely affected by the Model Master gunmetal metalizer paint underneath?"  Has anyone had any experience with this?

Thanks!

Eric

  • Member since
    March, 2015
Posted by JohnnyK on Wednesday, October 04, 2017 3:02 PM

Did the guy burnish the MM Metalizer before applying Alclad? I have never used MM Metalizer under Alclad, but MM Metalizer tends to be pretty rough until they are burnished.

  • Member since
    February, 2003
  • From: Green Bay, WI USA
Posted by echolmberg on Wednesday, October 04, 2017 3:30 PM

Not sure.  He didn't say.  The guy on the web site used Alcald gunmetal as his base coat while I'm using MM gunmetal.  Eventhough it seemed to go on pretty smooth, I'm still going to polish it.  My question was whether MM metalizer can be used as a base coat under Alclad.  

Eric

  • Member since
    February, 2003
  • From: Green Bay, WI USA
Posted by echolmberg on Monday, October 09, 2017 10:37 AM

Hi folks.  Just wanted to give a follow-up in case anyone was curious.  Last night I applied several coats of Alclad over the MM gunmetal buffing metalizer.  It went over it just fine with no attacking of the underlying MM paint.  The MM gunmetal provided some tonal variation to the Alclad just as I had hoped.  I also used some Testors gloss blue (from the little square bottles) in spots as well and it, too, helped to give some tonal variety.

In the next couple of weeks, I hope to post some pictures of the end result.  Please be patient since I am agonizingly slow when it comes to my builds.

Best wishes,

Eric

  • Member since
    February, 2003
  • From: Green Bay, WI USA
Posted by echolmberg on Thursday, October 12, 2017 2:56 PM

Smile Hi once again.  I don't mean to keep reviving an older thread but I felt the need to pass this on in case someone was going to try this.  In my previous statement, I said that Alclad worked just fine over MM metalizers.  This is true but with an important caveat.  I noticed that Alclad, when sprayed over MM metalizers and then masked over with blue lo-tack masking tape, WILL LIFT OFF!!!

So beware.  You can spray Alclad over MM metalizers but you just can't mask the Alclad afterwards.  When I masked over the Alclad, which was painted over Testor's gloss black, it worked just fine with no lifting.

I hope this helps,

Eric

  • Member since
    February, 2005
  • From: Cleveland, OH
Posted by RadMax8 on Monday, October 16, 2017 11:42 PM

Excellent tip, Eric. Good to know the follow up, that would be enough to make me rip my hair out. 

Good to see a familiar face from "the old days", too! 

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