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  • From: Eleva, Wisconsin
Question for Iwata afficionados
Posted by Greatmaker on Saturday, November 18, 2017 10:02 AM

I have been using the Testors Aztek airbrushs for 5 years and I’ve decided to  switch things up. I’ve read through Don’s site and I‘ve narrowed it down to the revolution or the eclipse. The eclipse is usually rated higher...except on Amazon. I see the eclipse has a .35mm. needle as opposed to a .5mm needle. I’m wondering how much a difference it makes in the fineness of the line. I guess what got me second guessing the Aztek was a video I watched of a guy pre-shading a 1/32 plane. He sprayed very fine lines and it didn’t appear that his brush plugged once. I can maybe get two lines on a 1/48 before the tip gets plugged. I have no complaints about testors product support. They have always been fantastic. Thank you 

Already ordered the eclipse

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Posted by Don Wheeler on Saturday, November 18, 2017 7:28 PM

I think you will love your eclipse.  I'm not sure your tip dry will be any better though.

Don

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Posted by Greatmaker on Saturday, November 18, 2017 7:43 PM

Thanks Don Your reviews were a big help in making my decision 

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Posted by damouav on Saturday, November 18, 2017 8:14 PM

I have owned the Eclipse CS for 12months and a Revolution CR for 5months.

I have never had tip dry on either, and use the Eclipse 200% more than the Revolution for almost all types of painting and finishing.

I do a full clean after each and every session and grease all parts regulary and it has performed exceptionally.

You will not regret your decision.

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Posted by Retired In Kalifornia on Saturday, November 18, 2017 8:41 PM

Greatmaker

I have been using the Testors Aztek airbrushs for 5 years and I’ve decided to  switch things up. I’ve read through Don’s site and I‘ve narrowed it down to the revolution or the eclipse. The eclipse is usually rated higher...except on Amazon. I see the eclipse has a .35mm. needle as opposed to a .5mm needle. I’m wondering how much a difference it makes in the fineness of the line. I guess what got me second guessing the Aztek was a video I watched of a guy pre-shading a 1/32 plane. He sprayed very fine lines and it didn’t appear that his brush plugged once. I can maybe get two lines on a 1/48 before the tip gets plugged. I have no complaints about testors product support. They have always been fantastic. Thank you 

Already ordered the eclipse

 

I've been using Azteks since early 1990s, the 9304CX 0.30mm Nozzle Cartrige has the finest line, use it for my Regia Aeronautica Italia airplane modeling.

The cartridges are plastic, nozzles loose their shape after awhile, prone to cracking as well if cleaned too agressively.

I paint with Humbrol & Testors enamels, they require lotta mixing & thinning even working at the drop-by-drop level with the cartridge never mind with a paint cup.

I haven't asked Testors support for help 'cause the near dozen Azteks I'd owned over the decades I'd abused them, the three I have now take care of like babies given how expensive it is to replace any them.

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  • From: Eleva, Wisconsin
Posted by Greatmaker on Sunday, November 19, 2017 1:11 PM

I have 7 Azteks including 2 Metal ones. I clean the nozzles in an ultrasounic cleaner 30 minutes each in lacquer thinner and then 90% alcohol. Then run airbrush cleaner and water through  Besides the plugging issue I get backflow of the paint that runs out from the bottom seam. I usaully can’t feel that and I get paint in the model somewhere that I don’t want. I’ve sent numerous ones back for that issue. But even on the new ones it backflows. I squirt windex in the handle slot and paint comes out from the hole by the nozzle. Followed by a lot of water

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  • From: MN
Posted by Nathan T on Sunday, November 19, 2017 1:20 PM

You’ll love th Eclipse. I have the kit to change it to the .5mm nozzle for larger work and there is a huge difference in the finer lines the .35 tip makes. 

 

 

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  • From: Park City, Utah
Posted by Frankenpanzer on Sunday, November 19, 2017 3:39 PM

The Eclipse is the way to go. One tip I have tried is when spraying fine lines, remove the crown from the tip. You can get in closer and there is less air turbulence, but beware the needle tip as it is very exposed. 

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Posted by GMorrison on Sunday, November 19, 2017 3:47 PM

Retired In Kalifornia

I haven't asked Testors support for help 'cause the near dozen Azteks I'd owned over the decades I'd abused them, the three I have now take care of like babies given how expensive it is to replace any them.

And when did you realize they might be problematic?

I had a set and decided that the advantage of quick tip change was not greater than the disadvantage of the difficulty cleaning them. Having the needle spring in the paint flow just is a mess.

I'd love to get an Iwata. The problem is that my good old Badger just won't die.

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Posted by Greatmaker on Sunday, November 19, 2017 5:07 PM

I’m supposed to get it Tuesday so I’m looking forward to see how it goes. My current build has enough aggravation without painting issues 

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Posted by Greatmaker on Wednesday, November 22, 2017 1:28 PM

Well I tested it out last night.  My first attempt was an abysmal failure; however, that was operator error.  Had the Psi too high and paint wasn't thinned correctly.  Second attempt went far better. In between, I used my testors metal aztek brush to "fix" the error and was rewarded with paint running down my arm..  It leaks into the airbrush body and runs out the crease on the bottom.  I was amazed at how sensitive the trigger was on the eclipse and how thin I could paint lines.  Plus cleanup was far easier than the aztek. I'm looking forward to putting it though it's paces over the holiday weekend

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Posted by damouav on Wednesday, November 22, 2017 3:38 PM

Greatmaker

Well I tested it out last night.  My first attempt was an abysmal failure; however, that was operator error.  Had the Psi too high and paint wasn't thinned correctly.  Second attempt went far better. In between, I used my testors metal aztek brush to "fix" the error and was rewarded with paint running down my arm..  It leaks into the airbrush body and runs out the crease on the bottom.  I was amazed at how sensitive the trigger was on the eclipse and how thin I could paint lines.  Plus cleanup was far easier than the aztek. I'm looking forward to putting it though it's paces over the holiday weekend

 

I find most acrylics spray best with this AB at between 14-18psi at the compressor, thinned at a 2:1 ratio paint/thinners. Tamiya and Mr. Paint are thinned with Tamiya Laquer thinners to the consistancey of skim milk. Best to drop the connical shaped nozzel in thinners once in a while to remove paint residue build up.

You will need to do your own testing to fine tune it for your setup.

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Posted by ACESES5 on Sunday, November 26, 2017 8:22 PM

I wanted a new brush but could only afford one under $90 so I got an Iwata Neo it's not made by Iwata but I still love it. I like the double action unlike my Passche I don't have to stop to adjust the amount of paint it puts out, a little harder to clean but I solved that probluem with some small dental brushes.          2 cents                         ACESES5                  

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Posted by Greatmaker on Tuesday, November 28, 2017 9:53 AM

So far I’ve been pretty amazed. I find that it has very little overspray. I painted some wheel struts on a plane with minimal masking and had zero overspray. Usually if I try that with the aztek it will be repaint city. I’ve found that it’s pretty easy to clean. So far I had one issue with paint coming out right away but a quick clean of the nozzle fixed that. Trigger is far more sensitive than the azteks 

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Posted by damouav on Tuesday, November 28, 2017 2:56 PM

Yes

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