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Sand Paper?
Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, March 28, 2004 12:34 PM
I'm curious as to what grit sand paper you guys use after priming? Also, how long should I wait before sanding? I used Testor's enamel primer and it's too thick in some spots. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks --SpencerSmile [:)]
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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, March 28, 2004 12:43 PM
I use 1200 grit and only sand very lightly between coats. I only apply a thin layer of primer, just enough to reveal any spots that needs attention. If the layer is to thick you can sand it down and try to rescue any details that may have been filled with paint and then apply a new coat of primer. Good luck
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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, March 28, 2004 12:48 PM
Thanks for the quick reply. The highest I have is 600. Do you think that would do it? How long should I wait before sanding? The can says after 2 hrs.
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Posted by qmiester on Sunday, March 28, 2004 1:12 PM
No matter if its primer or color coat, I let it dry for a minimum of 24 hrs before I apply a second coat, sand or apply decals. Sniff your model, if it's dry to the touch but still smells like paint, then it's not dry yet.
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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, March 28, 2004 1:14 PM
Thanks, do you think 600 grit is enough?
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Posted by MusicCity on Sunday, March 28, 2004 6:42 PM
600 might be a little bit rough. If you have a local NAPA auto parts store, try them. They usually have some 1000 grit. If not, go to a hardware store and get some very fine steel wool. That's what I typically use in between coats. Just be sure to get reid of all the "Steel Fuzz" before the next coat Big Smile [:D]
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Posted by Quagmyre on Sunday, March 28, 2004 6:56 PM
I have 8000 and 12000 grit polishing abrasives. They are great for removing finger prints, buffing a NMF, and leveling paint.
ehobbies has this stuff ---> http://www.ehobbies.com/1003-7519.html

or you can go straight to the manufacturer --->http://www.sisweb.com/catalog/?page=A85


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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, March 28, 2004 7:51 PM
Walmart also has higher grit papers, up to about 1200, I think, in their automotive department. They're smaller sheets, but they're pretty cheap.
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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, March 28, 2004 7:58 PM
I saw Meijer had 1000, 1200, 1500, & 2000 grit in the automotive section. (with the bondo)
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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, March 28, 2004 8:07 PM
Thanks you guys. I was just in the Wally World auto dep. buying Castrol Super Clean, I didn't think to look for sand paper there and they only had 150 or so in the paint department. 600 didn't work too well on the seats for the Bradley. I was thinking they might not matter so much since they won't be too visible, but other things like ammo boxes for the bustle rack etc., I'm definitely going to redo. Thanks Again -Spencer
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Posted by MikeV on Sunday, March 28, 2004 8:30 PM
The Wal-Mart here only has a package of sandpaper by 3M with sheets of 220, 320, and 400.

Mike

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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, March 28, 2004 8:52 PM
Did you try the auto section? I didn't think to. All I found was the 3M as well. Ours does have three rows of craft stuff but I didn't bother to look there either.
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Posted by MikeV on Sunday, March 28, 2004 10:11 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by riffraff247

Did you try the auto section? I didn't think to. All I found was the 3M as well. Ours does have three rows of craft stuff but I didn't bother to look there either.


That's a good point as they may have more there. I'll look next time I am there.
I usually just go to a hardware store that we have around here as they sell it by the sheet up to 1,000 grit I believe. I never use anything above 600 though as I see no need for it.

Mike

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Posted by saltydog on Sunday, March 28, 2004 11:36 PM
oh yeah babe, they have whatever you need at walmart boys. the auto section definetly has the finer grit of papers. i also love those little plastic containers over in the crafts section. they are all connected and i think they come 24 to a pack for about a buck. they have a lid that stays attached to the container and i just cut them apart with my sprue cutters and mix paint or whatever else in these handy little jewels. they are about the size of an omni 5000 paint cup. there cheap enough to just chunk em when you get through with them, or you can clean them and use them again.

i swing by the electronics section and pick up a pack of those alcohol wipes for my computer that claim to put a negative charge on the plastic so dust is less likely to come to rest on the wiped area and leaves no residue to boot. heck, my small town walmart even carries a testors airbrush set! i couldnt believe it when i saw it.

the above is just a few of the items i use from walmart. however, i could go on and on.
later.

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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, March 29, 2004 7:42 AM
A lot of replies have been made since I were here the last time. Just to add to what I said in my first reply. I use 1200 grit between coats the same way MusicCity uses steel wool. If I need to remove a layer of paint or filler I use 600 grit. Thumbs Up [tup]
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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, March 29, 2004 1:39 PM
Thanks monrad. I'm gonna get some 1200 or so today. --Cheers
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Posted by plasticmod992 on Monday, March 29, 2004 6:52 PM
Iwould try this product which works very well for stripping the primer. It would harm the underlying plastic and stripping the kit will allow you to give it another try.
For more information go to the Aircraft resource Center link to read the review on how it works, where to get it and performance. I used it for a project come years ago and it worked as advertised.
http://www.aircraftresourcecenter.com/tnt1/001-100/TnT073_Strip-a-kit_Quirk/tnt073.htm
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Posted by plasticmod992 on Monday, March 29, 2004 6:54 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by plasticmod992

Iwould try this product which works very well for stripping the primer. It would harm the underlying plastic and stripping the kit will allow you to give it another try.
For more information go to the Aircraft resource Center link to read the review on how it works, where to get it and performance. I used it for a project come years ago and it worked as advertised.
http://www.aircraftresourcecenter.com/tnt1/001-100/TnT073_Strip-a-kit_Quirk/tnt073.htm


Type-o on my part in the first paragraph...this product will not harm the underlying plastic. Sorry for the mispellingBlush [:I]
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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, March 30, 2004 12:29 PM
Thanks for the links everyone. I got some 1000 and 2000 last night and I'm still...Banged Head [banghead] The Castrol Super Clean doesn't work as well as I expected it to. I got the paint off the small parts but I still have some other crucial areas such as a corner of the rear loading ramp, rear light covers and stowage boxesBanged Head [banghead]Banged Head [banghead]Banged Head [banghead] as well as a couple of not so crucial areas like a small interior section and part of the lower hull. (Bradley M2 -Tamiya) Does anybody know of any step by step links that might help? SpencerBlindfold [X-)]
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Posted by MikeV on Tuesday, March 30, 2004 7:55 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by riffraff247

The Castrol Super Clean doesn't work as well as I expected it to.


How are you using it? You have to soak the part in Super Clean in order for it to work well.

Mike

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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, March 31, 2004 3:53 PM
I've decided to reprime the whole thing. So now I've sprayed the upper and lower hull, side armor and turret and have it soaking as best I can. I'm trying to find a better container to get more surface area submerged. I don't think it will work if I just keep spraying more coats of CSC on them. I have to have them fully submerged, correct? How long is the average soak time? This is taking a lot of CSC and it doesn't take it off as fast as I expected but at least it doesn't harm the plastic. I tried some brush cleaner on a part last night and it broke in half. Luckily it glued ok with CA and you can't tell.
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Posted by MikeV on Wednesday, March 31, 2004 8:08 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by riffraff247

I have to have them fully submerged, correct?


Yes, for the most effective removal you need to submerge it.

QUOTE: How long is the average soak time?


I would think that 24 hours would be more than enough time for CSC to do it's job.
I tested an old A-4 wing in CSC and it almost completely stripped it in about 2-3 hours.
Maybe you have some tough primer there that will take longer?

Mike

Wisdom is the right use of knowledge. To know is not to be wise. Many men know a great deal, and are all the greater fools for it. There is no fool so great a fool as a knowing fool. But to know how to use knowledge is to have wisdom. " Charles Spurgeon
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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, March 31, 2004 10:33 PM
Man, I'm starting to wonder, I'm thinking of trying oven cleaner or starting the M1 that I bought recently but I'm not really that type of person. I usually like to finish one thing before I start another. I did find the link you posted about paint removers in the archives and it seems I'm going by the book, but I'm just not getting the results. I didn't have total submersion, but the areas that were still don't have much to show for. There has to be a solution. Cheers --Spencer
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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, April 1, 2004 7:23 PM
Okay I'm an idiot!!! I screwed up because I was rushing and bought the Castrol Super Clean Wheel Cleaner instead of the degreaser. I just saw the purple bottle and grabbed it . (AssumptionBlush [:I]) The saying is definitely true! Oh well, so now I've got the kit soaking and will check on it momentarily. -cheers-
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Posted by MikeV on Thursday, April 1, 2004 7:46 PM
That's great news! Big Smile [:D]

Be sure to wear rubber gloves around CSC though as it will literally remove skin if it comes in contact with it for very long.

Mike

Wisdom is the right use of knowledge. To know is not to be wise. Many men know a great deal, and are all the greater fools for it. There is no fool so great a fool as a knowing fool. But to know how to use knowledge is to have wisdom. " Charles Spurgeon
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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, April 1, 2004 7:56 PM
Right On! I got a box of the green kind kicked down to me the other week when I had a blood test done and I bought some goggles today as well. Thanks for the safety meeting, I needed it. My hands are pretty dry from the wheel cleaner and I didn't even have that much contact with it. Already wore 'em. -SpencerBig Smile [:D]
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