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Iwata eclipse hp-cs trigger sticky at low psi

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Iwata eclipse hp-cs trigger sticky at low psi
Posted by drumsfield on Monday, January 29, 2018 1:20 PM

Hi,

I'm looking for advice on troubleshooting my AB. I cleaned it thoroughly yet on occasions at very low psi (20-15psi) the trigger starts acting spongy. Is it possible the air valve needs lubbing? I've only owned the AB for a few months but I've been using it constantly since I got it so I'm not sure what long term maintenance I need to do on it. It did come with some lube which I haven't used it. I thought the lube was to be used on the needle. As far as I know the needle and the nozzles seem to be fine. Also does this model require an O ring? I coudn't find any resources that stated that it has one.

 

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  • From: Indiana, USA
Posted by Greg on Monday, January 29, 2018 1:26 PM

drumsfield
....but it's been on constantly since I got it...

I'm not quite sure what this means but if you mean it's been hooked up to a compressor which is turned on, that's not the best for the a/b from what I understand.

I always turn off the compressor and bleed the pressurized air out (simply by pressing the trigger on my airbrushes) after I used it/them.

I have had my Iwata HP-CS trigger get a bit sticky from time to time. I used to use a drop of the Iwata lube you mentioned, but it seemed to sticky-up and get worse, and I read some supporting info on that. I have been using a drop Badger's Regdab Needle Juice from time to time, seems to work ok.

This is some info for you to chew on, I have same airbrush as you but I'm not as good with airbrushes as many here who hopefully will chime in and help you.

-Greg

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Posted by drumsfield on Monday, January 29, 2018 1:48 PM

By constantly on I mean I use it basically every day. I turn off the compressor when I'm done. 

Yea I've read somewhere that the lube generally makes the stickiness worse. 

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  • From: Indiana, USA
Posted by Greg on Monday, January 29, 2018 1:56 PM

Got it. Sorry I misundertood.

On the rare occasions my HP-CS stickys-up, which is always because of an incomplete cleaning and extended sit time in my case, a complete tear down, clean with laquer thinner, and a bit of Regdab brings me back to like-new. Knock wood.

Does it stick going up/down or back/forward? Or both?

-Greg

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    August, 2017
Posted by laskdjn on Monday, January 29, 2018 2:38 PM

On the HP-CS I have, I found that after back-flowed to mix or clean, that some of whatever was in the color cup would get behind the needle packing bearing and eventually leak down below the trigger and cause the O-ring between the air valve and the airbrush body to swell.  This would cause my air release portion of the trigger pull to be spongy and sticky.

So, i'd recommend two things. First, check to make sure that the needle packing bearing between the trigger body and the paint cup is properly tightened, this will prevent paint/lacquer thinner/whatever from getting into the air valve mechanism.  Second, take apart the air valve and clean it and let the little tiny o-ring between the air valve and the airbrush body to dry out over night or so.  Then, when you reassemble use some of the lube provided with the airbrush.

 

Edit:  As a note, it is possible that you might just want to buy a new O-ring to replace the one that's swelled up.

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Posted by laskdjn on Monday, January 29, 2018 2:40 PM

What is Regdab?  I wanna try it on my airbrush.

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Posted by Bearcat57 on Monday, January 29, 2018 3:02 PM

It’s an airbrush lubricant that comes in 1oz bottles (which should last nearly a lfetime). Can be purchased on Amazon for around $6 USD

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Posted by laskdjn on Monday, January 29, 2018 3:32 PM

How's it compare to the stuff that comes with an Eclipse?

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  • From: Fullerton, Calif.
Posted by Don Wheeler on Monday, January 29, 2018 3:45 PM

You can see a comparison of Regdab with Iwata Superlube at the bottom of this page.  Regdab is Badger spelled backwards.

A sticky trigger is fairly common in Iwatas.  The trigger pin passes through a rubber O-ring in the body.  Iwata advises to pull the trigger and put a dab of Superlube in the opening.  That works until the Superlube gets gummy.  Regdab might last longer.

Don

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  • From: the redlands Fl
Posted by crown r n7 on Monday, January 29, 2018 4:42 PM

Yes I agree with Don I just work Through it 

  

 Nick.

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Posted by drumsfield on Monday, January 29, 2018 9:28 PM

Don Wheeler

You can see a comparison of Regdab with Iwata Superlube at the bottom of this page.  Regdab is Badger spelled backwards.

A sticky trigger is fairly common in Iwatas.  The trigger pin passes through a rubber O-ring in the body.  Iwata advises to pull the trigger and put a dab of Superlube in the opening.  That works until the Superlube gets gummy.  Regdab might last longer.

Don

 

 

Thanks Don I'll give that a try.

  • Member since
    May, 2006
  • From: Irmo, South Carolina
Posted by Shipwreck on Tuesday, February 06, 2018 2:01 PM

I have been using my hp-cs for about 10 years and the trigger will get sticky. The easiest fix for me is to apply a couple of drops of water on the trigger!

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