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Paint Ratio mixture?
Posted by Sgt.HoundDog on Monday, February 12, 2018 2:06 AM

Hi Everyone!

 

So i have a question, when it says mix 95% of color “A” with 5% of color “B” how would you measure and mix that?

still working on the Fokker D Vii.

also im having a hard time painting on the decals, how would you go about it?

Below is the kit im working on, and by gosh for a small kit there is ALOT of detail and time put into it.

https://www.revell.de/en/products/model-building/aircraft/world-war-i/id/04194.html

 

again any advice is greatly appreciated your helping me to build my modeling techniques with all of your knowledge.

 

Respectfully.

-Hound

First model in 10 years! I'm happy with it!

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Posted by KnightTemplar5150 on Monday, February 12, 2018 2:30 AM

If my math is right, that ratio would work out to 19 drops of color A with 1 drop of color B (95/5 = 19/1). Measure it with a disposable pipette or an eye dropper, then thin as necessary for airbrushing.

What's the problem with your decals?

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  • From: Bury St Edmunds, Suffolk, England
Posted by Bish on Monday, February 12, 2018 2:42 AM

I always mix mine by eye, usually adding so many drops of one colour and then so many oif anotehr. For the 5% i would just add a small amount and see how it looks. I don't think you need to be to exact, especially with these WW1 aircraft.

Not sure what you mean about painting on the decals.

''I am a Norfolk man, and i glory in being so''

 

On the bench: Esci 1/72nd MiG 29 (Aircraft of the Commonwealth GB)

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Posted by Sgt.HoundDog on Monday, February 12, 2018 3:09 AM

KnightTemplar5150

If my math is right, that ratio would work out to 19 drops of color A with 1 drop of color B (95/5 = 19/1). Measure it with a disposable pipette or an eye dropper, then thin as necessary for airbrushing.

What's the problem with your decals?

 

 

so if you click on the link there is a picture of the underneath of the wings.

the decals come blank and you gotta paint the color scheme (they give you a pattern)

the issue i have is...how do you paint on a decal? 

Do you apply the setting solution than paint on? Than clear coat and paint than clear coat?

do you apply the decal, paint it than clear coat?

how would you do the process?

 

thanks for the reply.

First model in 10 years! I'm happy with it!

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Posted by Sgt.HoundDog on Monday, February 12, 2018 3:24 AM

KnightTemplar5150

If my math is right, that ratio would work out to 19 drops of color A with 1 drop of color B (95/5 = 19/1). Measure it with a disposable pipette or an eye dropper, then thin as necessary for airbrushing.

What's the problem with your decals?

 

 

I would try to upload a photo but can't figure it out for some reason. photobucket blows.

First model in 10 years! I'm happy with it!

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Posted by KnightTemplar5150 on Monday, February 12, 2018 3:31 AM

How would I approach it? I'd toss them out. There are dozens of decal companies that do lozenge camouflage decals in a number of scales, so they aren't hard to find. Some sets come complete with ribbing tape, others don't, so shop wisely.

But, if you need to go this route, spray a clear gloss coat first. Once cured, apply the decals as usual and apply another coat of clear to seal the decals. Then, paint over the top with a fine brush. At this point, you are not painting on a decal, but rather on the surface of the gloss seal coat. Once done painting, seal your work again, but with a dull coat. Reapply in light coats to get to yout desired sheen of finish.

That's a lot of hassle for 1/72. Lend some thought to replacing them.

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Posted by Sgt.HoundDog on Monday, February 12, 2018 3:37 AM

KnightTemplar5150

How would I approach it? I'd toss them out. There are dozens of decal companies that do lozenge camouflage decals in a number of scales, so they aren't hard to find. Some sets come complete with ribbing tape, others don't, so shop wisely.

But, if you need to go this route, spray a clear gloss coat first. Once cured, apply the decals as usual and apply another coat of clear to seal the decals. Then, paint over the top with a fine brush. At this point, you are not painting on a decal, but rather on the surface of the gloss seal coat. Once done painting, seal your work again, but with a dull coat. Reapply in light coats to get to yout desired sheen of finish.

That's a lot of hassle for 1/72. Lend some thought to replacing them.

 

 

did not know they made decals with pre-painted scheme.

Do you happen to have a link to a possible site?

Thanks again for your knowledge.

First model in 10 years! I'm happy with it!

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  • From: Bury St Edmunds, Suffolk, England
Posted by Bish on Monday, February 12, 2018 4:56 AM

Theres is no way i would paint that. Do a search for Lozenge decals. I did on Hannants and it came up with quite a selection.

https://www.hannants.co.uk/search/index.php?adv=1&product_category_id=&product_division_id=&manufacturer_id=&product_type_id=&code=&scale_id=956&keyword_search=Lozenge&setPerPage=100&sort=0&search_direction=0&save_search_name=&save_search=

You should be able to find similar on a site in the US.

Photobucket will only work if you pay a $400 ransom. We have all swicthed to other sites, i am useing Flickr, but others are useing postimage, imageshack or a selction of otehr sites.

''I am a Norfolk man, and i glory in being so''

 

On the bench: Esci 1/72nd MiG 29 (Aircraft of the Commonwealth GB)

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Posted by KnightTemplar5150 on Monday, February 12, 2018 9:46 AM

Here are just a couple of returns, but keep in mind that these are also pretty common on eBay as well:

http://store.spruebrothers.com/product_p/wbd72013.htm

https://www.1001modelkits.com/s/lozengedecals

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Posted by BlackSheepTwoOneFour on Monday, February 12, 2018 5:51 PM

Sgt.HoundDog

Hi Everyone!

 

So i have a question, when it says mix 95% of color “A” with 5% of color “B” how would you measure and mix that?

still working on the Fokker D Vii.

also im having a hard time painting on the decals, how would you go about it?

Below is the kit im working on, and by gosh for a small kit there is ALOT of detail and time put into it.

https://www.revell.de/en/products/model-building/aircraft/world-war-i/id/04194.html

 

again any advice is greatly appreciated your helping me to build my modeling techniques with all of your knowledge.

 

Respectfully.

-Hound

 

 

That‘s one of my biggest and annoying pet peeves with Revell’s paint call outs using percentage for mixing colors. I never bother with the b***s*** paint ratio. Instead, I’ll do my research of color call outs elsewhere of the same subject. You’d be surprised for example, let’s say a paint ratio is x color 90% and y color is 10% is actually FS34079 Dark Green.

Don’t waste your time trying to deal with paint ratio for mixing colors. Do a little research instead and you’ll find the correct color found in a single bottle of Model Master or whatever brand paint it is.

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    February, 2018
Posted by Sgt.HoundDog on Tuesday, February 13, 2018 12:11 PM

BlackSheepTwoOneFour

 

 
Sgt.HoundDog

Hi Everyone!

 

So i have a question, when it says mix 95% of color “A” with 5% of color “B” how would you measure and mix that?

still working on the Fokker D Vii.

also im having a hard time painting on the decals, how would you go about it?

Below is the kit im working on, and by gosh for a small kit there is ALOT of detail and time put into it.

https://www.revell.de/en/products/model-building/aircraft/world-war-i/id/04194.html

 

again any advice is greatly appreciated your helping me to build my modeling techniques with all of your knowledge.

 

Respectfully.

-Hound

 

 

 

 

That‘s one of my biggest and annoying pet peeves with Revell’s paint call outs using percentage for mixing colors. I never bother with the b***s*** paint ratio. Instead, I’ll do my research of color call outs elsewhere of the same subject. You’d be surprised for example, let’s say a paint ratio is x color 90% and y color is 10% is actually FS34079 Dark Green.

Don’t waste your time trying to deal with paint ratio for mixing colors. Do a little research instead and you’ll find the correct color found in a single bottle of Model Master or whatever brand paint it is.

 

 

yes I agree, it makes it difficult sometimes to do a ratio.

 

and thankfully for the replys that i have gotten, i got a decal instead of having to paint each and every individual square.

 

I am honestly not pleased with how this plane is turning out.

 

Not one of my best projects.

Thank you for your advice.

First model in 10 years! I'm happy with it!

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    February, 2018
Posted by Sgt.HoundDog on Tuesday, February 13, 2018 12:20 PM

Alright well as you can see this is a work in progress and I'm not really happy with how this is turning out.

1: This is my 2nd model in 10 years so dont be too critical im building up my skill again. LoL Wink

2: This is all Handbrushed, I don't have the space, or the funds for a fancy airbrush at the moment but hopefully soon.

 

First model in 10 years! I'm happy with it!

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