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GLOSS/MATT...A " REALISM" DOUBT

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  • From: From Italy but currently in Qatar
GLOSS/MATT...A " REALISM" DOUBT
Posted by MICHELE on Thursday, May 03, 2018 3:07 AM

Hi everybody,

I have a doubt, after seeing all the wonderful works shown in the gallery; I usually paint my military models with matt colour and finish, which I suppose is the golden rule; they are ok to me and the result is of course "matt". Looking at some of your very nice works, I see sometimes semi-gloss finishing that for me is very realistic.  Apart from any weathering and considering, of course, vehicles and equipment in operation (not fresh from the factory) is 'pure' matt finishing the standard choice ? is there any process to modify the possible gloss finishing to be more realistic? In the end, how do you usually pain your models, gloss or matt...Thank you very much and good work! 

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  • From: Bury St Edmunds, Suffolk, England
Posted by Bish on Thursday, May 03, 2018 3:57 AM

I can't say i have seen many military models finished in a gloss or semi gloss finish, not that i have noticed. Of course, some people prefer an artistic finish rather than realistic, useing colour modulation for example, so some may well prefer a touch of shine to their builds.

In the end, its your choice, personally, i go for a matt finish and aim for my builds to be as realistic as possable under the circumstances.

''I am a Norfolk man, and i glory in being so''

 

On the bench: Esci 1/72nd MiG 29 (Aircraft of the Commonwealth GB)

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  • From: Sydney, Australia
Posted by Phil_H on Thursday, May 03, 2018 7:13 AM

There are always exceptions to the "matt" military colours rule. Consider that US Navy aircraft have often had gloss finishes, from the gloss dark blues of the post WW2 era to the gloss gull grey over gloss white finishes of the 60's through mid-80's. Late WW2 Spitfires were sometimes polished to a high gloss to gain a few MPH to aid in intercepting V1's.

Also consider that for ground vehicles, a coating of dust from traveling a mile or two down a dirt track  or road would quickly ender any gloss finish dull.

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  • From: Albany, New York
Posted by ManCityFan on Thursday, May 03, 2018 8:46 AM

I have seen military aircraft on this forum finished in what I think is a semi-gloss.  Maybe eggshell is more accurate.  It is certainly not a high gloss, but not truly flat either.

I have to say I like the effect, though I have not tried to re-produce it (yet).

I agree with Phil.  This wouldn't work for ground vehicles.

Dwayne or Dman or just D.  All comments are welcome on my builds. 

 

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  • From: Twin Cities of Minnesota
Posted by Don Stauffer on Thursday, May 03, 2018 9:14 AM

Many of the military paints are indeed more of a semi-matt or eggshell when brand new, but they do weather to a full flat after awhile.  Also, older paints did not weather well, so even something painted glossy would weather to a full flat if not polished frequently.

Don Stauffer in Minnesota

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Posted by PFJN on Thursday, May 03, 2018 10:30 AM

Hi,

I suppose that it may also be possible that since many modelers like to put a gloss coat on their model before applying decals and then apply a matt coat after that (if I am understanding correctly) that this may give the completed model a little bit of a different appearance than if it were painted solely with matt paints throughout the build - but thats just a guess. Huh?

Pat

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  • From: From Italy but currently in Qatar
Posted by MICHELE on Thursday, May 03, 2018 11:39 AM
I agree with you... Thanks
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Posted by MICHELE on Thursday, May 03, 2018 11:41 AM
You are right and I was actually referring to vehicles.
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Posted by MICHELE on Thursday, May 03, 2018 11:42 AM
Ok thanks
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Posted by MICHELE on Thursday, May 03, 2018 11:42 AM
Ok
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  • From: From Italy but currently in Qatar
Posted by MICHELE on Thursday, May 03, 2018 11:47 AM
it may be... as per my experience I use gloss clear for Decals and some weathering and a final matt finishing and the result is clear matt ; but it's also possible that this last coating can be modulated (pressure and/or distance)

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