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AAAARG!!!! guess thats what i get for boasting.
Posted by saltydog on Wednesday, March 31, 2004 12:45 PM
i recently posted that id be a dixie art shoppin' fool for the next 6 months. well, i called my architect last week to put in my hp-cs order because she'd be coming this past weekend to check the progress of her design. well, sunday rolled around(this is the day she said she would be in town) and no architect. then monday came and went with no architect. she calls monday night and says she'll pick up my supplies tuesday morning and will be at my place by mid day. she arrives, and guess what, dixie art was out of hp-cs. Disapprove [V]Disapprove [V]Disapprove [V]. then she said it would be in today and she would pick it up when she returned home as she had already paid for it. she gets back home and calls me about a change that she wants to make on the design and tells me she has the brush but wont be back until week after next!!!!Sad [:(]Sad [:(]Sad [:(]Sad [:(]Sad [:(]Sad [:(]

any words of comfort are welcome fellows.
this could be one of the saddest days of my life.Clown [:o)]Tongue [:P]
a very sad and contrite saltydog. later.

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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, March 31, 2004 2:36 PM
Let me introduce my good friend Murphy… Mischief [:-,]
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Posted by Torio on Wednesday, March 31, 2004 5:45 PM
Isn't anyone selling an Aztek airbrush at a good price for our friend ?

Thank you all for coming José

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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, March 31, 2004 6:05 PM
especially the a370. haahhah owned.1 nevermind
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Posted by saltydog on Wednesday, March 31, 2004 6:08 PM
fellows, im in mourning here and all you guys have is jokes? i just thought i had friends on this forum!Sigh [sigh]Tongue [:P]
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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, March 31, 2004 6:40 PM
I feel for you my friend.....Sad [:(]
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Posted by maddafinga on Wednesday, March 31, 2004 8:29 PM
With all this delay, you might just as well have ordered one. One of my rules of thumb is that nothing will work out as well as it should. Sounds like you got bit by this one Chris. Sorry man, I feel your pain so to speak. I spent all my airbrush and compressor money on vacation and fixing Claire's car after those punkass kids stole it and screwed it up. Ah well.

We'll expect a full report when you finally get it in you know Chris.
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Posted by MikeV on Wednesday, March 31, 2004 8:57 PM
Chris,

The waiting is the hardest part brother, but it makes it worthwhile. Big Smile [:D]
At least you still have some good airbrushes to play with right now.

Mike

Wisdom is the right use of knowledge. To know is not to be wise. Many men know a great deal, and are all the greater fools for it. There is no fool so great a fool as a knowing fool. But to know how to use knowledge is to have wisdom. " Charles Spurgeon
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Posted by MusicCity on Wednesday, March 31, 2004 9:12 PM
Wanna borrow my Badger? (we really need a smilie that shows an animated guy rolling on the floor laughing!) Sorry, Chris, I really couldn't resist.

If it helps, here is a link to another user's review of how great they are:
http://www.finescale.com/fsm/community/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=17727

Wait, I guess that doesn't help much either, sorry.Oops [oops]
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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, March 31, 2004 10:03 PM
i've got a suggestion....get a life!
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Posted by saltydog on Wednesday, March 31, 2004 10:04 PM
QUOTE: Wanna borrow my Badger? (we really need a smilie that shows an animated guy rolling on the floor laughing!) Sorry, Chris, I really couldn't resist.

QUOTE: Isn't anyone selling an Aztek airbrush at a good price for our friend ?


HA HA.........HE HE..........WAH HA HA!!! you guys are just killin' me. Disapprove [V]Disapprove [V] im over here just a poor, defensless redneck, and all you guys can do is poke fun!! Clown [:o)]

QUOTE: With all this delay, you might just as well have ordered one

i thought of that myself but at the moment i thought it would be quicker for her to swing by and pick it up and it would be here the next day. if i had ordered it, it would've been out of stock and id probably had to wait a while anyway. im really not worried about it as i have the hp-c. i just ordered the hp-cs for the heck of it. it'll be here soon enough. later.
QUOTE: The waiting is the hardest part brother, but it makes it worthwhile.
At least you still have some good airbrushes to play with right now.

very true brother, very true. later.
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Posted by MikeV on Wednesday, March 31, 2004 10:44 PM
Scott,

You mean a smilie like this?

I was going to say that but thought it would be a bit mean.

Thanks for doing it for me. Whistling [:-^]

Mike

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Posted by saltydog on Wednesday, March 31, 2004 11:00 PM
very cute mike.........veeeeeeeeery cute!
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Posted by MusicCity on Thursday, April 1, 2004 5:19 AM
QUOTE: You mean a smilie like this?

That's close enough!

QUOTE:
Thanks for doing it for me. Whistling [:-^]

I never hold back when I can help a fellow modeler overcome a slight difficulty! Glad I could help.

Chris, I've worked around architects for over 30 years. One thing I learned long ago is that when they say something the only thing you can be sure of is that they are going to change their mind!

This is just a small thing. Think of all the great fun you'll have when ou finally do get your hands on it.

Is that better?
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Posted by saltydog on Thursday, April 1, 2004 7:21 AM
i really not worried about it. just thought id be a whippin' post for a few days and stir up some humor. it'll be here soon enough.

as far as architects go, i not only have to deal with her, but her husband is a civil engineer. he helped with the load calculations on the house and boy, talk about overkill. any time i fart, i gotta check with him first to make sure his wind load calculations are kosha. but thats cool, the structure is definetly not going anywhere. and, i may possibly have picked up some investors for some spec houses i'm planning to build here in the near future. the couple is very interested in backing me finacially to get them built (for a return ofcourse) so there are some good things about architects and engineers! later.Tongue [:P]
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Posted by MusicCity on Thursday, April 1, 2004 7:58 AM
QUOTE:
i really not worried about it. just thought id be a whippin' post for a few days and stir up some humor. it'll be here soon enough.

Yeah, we picked up on that. I think that's why we all jumped in and helped you along!

QUOTE: as far as architects go, i not only have to deal with her, but her husband is a civil engineer.

Using the words "Architect" and "Engineer" in the same sentence is a no-no!

Just kidding and having a little fun at the expense of the architects. I've worked with both varieties for a lot of years.
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Posted by wibhi2 on Thursday, April 1, 2004 8:11 AM
hmmmmmpppphhh.....Architect bashing. Foul I cry, FOULSmile,Wink, & Grin [swg]Smile,Wink, & Grin [swg]. I never once changed my mind about a design - unless for good reason. Now, if you wanna talk about certain designers....... (I've got stories that'll make your skin crawl)

But the real question to ask yourself: Does the change make a better building?

Clients and contractors are a different beast all togetherBig Smile [:D]
Engineers - won't even touch that subject.

saltydog,
hope ya get your AB soonest. I'd be interested to hear what you have to say about it.
I have an BCS model and love it to death.
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Posted by MikeV on Thursday, April 1, 2004 9:35 AM
When you mention Architects I can't help but think of George on Seinfeld when Jerry told the girl George was going to go out with that George was a Marine Biologist. George got mad and told Jerry, "You know I always wanted to pretend to be an Architect." Laugh [(-D]Laugh [(-D]
The writers of that show were the best! Wink [;)]

Mike

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Posted by wibhi2 on Thursday, April 1, 2004 10:17 AM
Yeah, then there was that episode when George was interviewing kids for a scholarship
and one came in wanting to be an Architect (so he sez) which puts him on George's good side. Later the kid changes his mind and wants to be an Urban Planner - which of course irritates George to no end.....I agree, they had great writters.
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Posted by saltydog on Thursday, April 1, 2004 11:58 AM
sienfeld is still a halarious show even if it is reruns! later.
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Posted by MusicCity on Thursday, April 1, 2004 12:26 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by wibhi2

hmmmmmpppphhh.....Architect bashing. Foul I cry, FOULSmile,Wink, & Grin [swg]Smile,Wink, & Grin [swg]. I never once changed my mind about a design - unless for good reason. Now, if you wanna talk about certain designers....... (I've got stories that'll make your skin crawl)

But the real question to ask yourself: Does the change make a better building?

Yeah, yeah. Every architect I've ever met said that to Big Smile [:D]Big Smile [:D]

I used to work at a large multi-disciplinary engineering shop. We were doing a large commercial building once, and the architect that designed the conference room did not leave a square corner anywhere in it. Honest, I swear this is the truth. The room was so crooked and complicated that we had to get one of the roadway engineers in the transportation group to design the conference room table. Not a single straight line on it. It had so many complex spiral curves on it that nobody could lay it out (long before the days of CAD/D). It cost them an absolute fortune to have it custom made, and then when they got it to the site they found out it wouldn't even go through the doors into the room. Wound up having to cut it into pieces and rebuild it in the conference room.

QUOTE: Clients and contractors are a different beast all togetherBig Smile [:D]

Finally, something we both agree on!
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Posted by wibhi2 on Thursday, April 1, 2004 1:53 PM
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QUOTE: Originally posted by MusicCity
It had so many complex spiral curves on it that nobody could lay it out (long before the days of CAD/D).


I've done that, then laid it out for the carpenters - taught myself something that day. Don't design something that you can't build yerselfSmile [:)]Smile [:)]

QUOTE: Originally posted by MusicCity
It cost them an absolute fortune to have it custom made, and then when they got it to the site they found out it wouldn't even go through the doors into the room. Wound up having to cut it into pieces and rebuild it in the conference room.


Sounds like someone forgot to check the field conditions. Would have been worse if you couldn't even fit it in the elevator (been there, done that)
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Posted by MusicCity on Thursday, April 1, 2004 7:56 PM
QUOTE: I've done that, then laid it out for the carpenters - taught myself something that day. Don't design something that you can't build yerselfSmile [:)]Smile [:)]

It's just soooooo easy to design things that can't be built by humans! Cool [8D]

QUOTE: Sounds like someone forgot to check the field conditions. Would have been worse if you couldn't even fit it in the elevator (been there, done that)

Nah, it was just a plain old failure to look close enough at your own design. It was a new building, he designed the conference room (and the doors into it!) and the table that wouldn't go it :)

Elevators are almost excuseable. They really look like they ought to hold more than they do!
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Posted by fightnjoe on Thursday, April 1, 2004 8:12 PM
i do feel for you saltydog. hope everything comes together soon.

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Posted by saltydog on Thursday, April 1, 2004 8:33 PM
QUOTE: It's just soooooo easy to design things that can't be built by humans!

amen to that!!! its simple to sit down and dream up something, but actually building it is a whole different ballgame. i really like challenges though. it keeps you sharp and usually pays the bills better than regular old "blue collar" houses. i build mostly residential except for a couple of law offices i did a couple of years ago. the last house i did the owner (wife) came to me when it was time for me to start the cabinets and thrust a southern living magazine in my face and said," do you think you can do this?" it was basically building a set of brand new cabinets but making the finish look about a hundred years old. "weathering cabinets" is what i called it.Tongue [:P] i told her that ive never tried, but i would if she would be patient with me. so we took a sample door i had lying around the shop and commenced to making it look old. it worked beautifully and she's happy as a lark! those kinds of challenges keeps me interested in this industry. the architect im working with on this project is very "green" as far as field work goes. she's been published a few times but none of her designs that got published actually got built. this project is going to be built and published in the magazine (dont worry, ive never heard of it either) "Dwell". but she has a construction "language" barrier so to speak. i can name off some common words that have to do with framing such as rake, soffit, girder, ridge board, rafters, floor joists and such and she looks at me like a cow staring at a new gate. i was very surprised by that. she has an amazing mind for design/art though. she's a very unique individual and she's easy on the eyes as well.Big Smile [:D]. this project presents many uncommon elements that are going to come together to form an interesting home as well as a piece of art. oh yeah, i'm getting my first go at concrete countertops as well. i'm pumped about doing those just to add another notch to my experience belt. later.

QUOTE: i do feel for you saltydog. hope everything comes together soon.

thanks joe. im over it my friend. later.
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Posted by fightnjoe on Thursday, April 1, 2004 8:35 PM
knew i was too late on this one.

joe

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Posted by wibhi2 on Friday, April 2, 2004 10:30 AM
QUOTE: Originally posted by saltydog
but she has a construction "language" barrier so to speak. i can name off some common words that have to do with framing such as rake, soffit, girder, ridge board, rafters, floor joists and such and she looks at me like a cow staring at a new gate. i was very surprised by that.


That is very interesting, considering the average Architect will spend 5 years getting that terminology drummed into thier heads by professors, then another 3 sitting in some dank dark corner of an office drawing details before coming close to taking the freakin' 4 day licensing exam - but that is not the path of all.

QUOTE: Originally posted by saltydog
oh yeah, i'm getting my first go at concrete countertops as well. i'm pumped about doing those just to add another notch to my experience belt. later.


You should fun with that. Done a couple including bathroom vanities. A word of advice, use plenty of mesh and expect it to crack within a year or two of installation - just nature of the beast. I could easily go into a detailed explaination till yer eyes glaze over , but experience is the best teacher.
Black Eye [B)]Wink [;)]
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Posted by MusicCity on Friday, April 2, 2004 12:06 PM
QUOTE: That is very interesting, considering the average Architect will spend 5 years getting that terminology drummed into thier heads by professors, then another 3 sitting in some dank dark corner of an office drawing details before coming close to taking the freakin' 4 day licensing exam - but that is not the path of all.

Regardless of the profession, doctor, lawyer, architect, engineer, whatver, somebody has to finish last in their class!!

I've been at large companies and small companies. Large companies, as you say, stick them in the corner drawing details for a couple of years. Small companies don't have that luxury. They hire an Engineering Intern (or the architectural equivalent, I don't know what the term is) and frequently can't afford to have them drawing details. I've seen a lot of EI's turned lose as the designer on projects the day they walk in the door. I've heard the phrase, "They Didn't Teach Us That In School" so many times it's engraved on my brain.

QUOTE: You should fun with that. Done a couple including bathroom vanities. A word of advice, use plenty of mesh and expect it to crack within a year or two of installation - just nature of the beast. I could easily go into a detailed explaination till yer eyes glaze over , but experience is the best teacher.
Black Eye [B)]Wink [;)]

Concrete or plaster? Sounds like an awful heavy counter. Gonna be pretty solid though!
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Posted by saltydog on Friday, April 2, 2004 12:30 PM
i quess i should clarify that she is a professor at the University of Tulane. with that said, i have no clue what subjects she teaches and i know she has very limited field experience. she's got to be a rookie plan drafter because there were several discrepancies as far as conflicting scales and such. the cut away section would be drawn in 1/4 scale and the next page over the elevation in 1/8 scale would be have certain measurments way off. we're working it out though. in this buisiness, you just have to remain flexible and roll with the punches so to speak.

QUOTE: You should fun with that. Done a couple including bathroom vanities. A word of advice, use plenty of mesh and expect it to crack within a year or two of installation - just nature of the beast. I could easily go into a detailed explaination till yer eyes glaze over , but experience is the best teacher.

yeah i have to admit, im a little anxious about the concrete countertops but ive been studying every article i can find and they all point towards the reinforcement must be done properly or the trouble will begin. any advice is welcome my friend. thanks, later.

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Posted by Torio on Friday, April 2, 2004 3:47 PM
And you trust this woman to bring you home your amazing Aztek airbrush, I mean Iwata airbrush ?
I would think twice if I were you...

Thank you all for coming José

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