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matt paint...
Posted by kcrist84 on Wednesday, October 10, 2018 2:13 PM

Hi all, 

first time posting. been back in the hobby for about a year and half doing mostly cars and thought i'd try to do a tank. In the color scheme it calls for matt black and matt brown. i am having trouble finding these colors that arent spray. Can someone describe what the "matt" means? Is it referring to sheen, is there substitutres for it? 

 

Thanks for any help. 

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Posted by Rambo on Thursday, October 11, 2018 3:24 PM
Yep it's the sheen, matt is flat. If your using acrylic Tamiya then the paint is already flat. If you are using a enamel paint or other gloss color you can hit it with a clear flat to take the shine off of it.

Clint

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Posted by stikpusher on Thursday, October 11, 2018 3:28 PM

Rambo
Yep it's the sheen, matt is flat. If your using acrylic Tamiya then the paint is already flat. If you are using a enamel paint or other gloss color you can hit it with a clear flat to take the shine off of it.
 

Not quite that simple. Tamiya paints come in gloss, semi gloss, and flat (or matt) finish. The paints with a X prefix are gloss. The paints with an XF prefix are flat.

Which tank are you building because specific nationality vehicles are best painted with certain colors. Black is pretty generic, but brown has a huge range of tones and shades.

 

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Posted by GMorrison on Thursday, October 11, 2018 4:00 PM

Yes Stik is right, and I have at least six different black paints too.

What is the kit?

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Posted by kcrist84 on Sunday, October 14, 2018 9:51 AM

thanks for the reply guys. the model is an M41 walker bulldog. Haven’t started yet. 

 

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Posted by kcrist84 on Sunday, October 14, 2018 4:10 PM
It is a m41 walker bulldog
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Posted by stikpusher on Tuesday, October 16, 2018 4:24 PM

M41s mostly saw service in overall Olive Drab, with the exception of a few smaller countries late in the tank’s service life. What is the brown for? Also I might ask as to where you are located, and what paint brands that you have access to there?

 

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Posted by GMorrison on Tuesday, October 16, 2018 4:41 PM

kcrist84
It is a m41 walker bulldog
 

That's helpful. I cracked out one of the ones (Tamiya) in my stash and looked at the instructions.

 

Matte Black- the rubber road wheels. Testors makes a paint named "Rubber", which I'm sure is available at Hobby Lobby.

Matte Brown- the tool handles. Or they could be Olive Drab too. Anything you like that looks like wood.

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Posted by the Baron on Tuesday, October 16, 2018 7:28 PM

For tires, rubber road wheels, etc, I like to use Tamiya's matte NATO Black as the base color.  It's more of a dark charcoal gray.  I think it looks better in scale, than straight-up black.

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Posted by Don Stauffer on Wednesday, October 17, 2018 9:36 AM

To some extent you can vary the sheen of paints with varying the thickness and pressure of an airbrush. Using higher pressure for gloss paints, or doing a very dry/thin application will tone down the sheen.  Applying a very wet coat of flat paint will result in a semi-matt appearance.

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Posted by kcrist84 on Thursday, October 18, 2018 9:15 AM

thanks everyone

 

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Posted by BlackSheepTwoOneFour on Thursday, October 18, 2018 12:11 PM

Don Stauffer

To some extent you can vary the sheen of paints with varying the thickness and pressure of an airbrush. Using higher pressure for gloss paints, or doing a very dry/thin application will tone down the sheen.  Applying a very wet coat of flat paint will result in a semi-matt appearance.

 

 

If you thoroughly stir flat/matte black paint it will come out flat/matte. I don’t see how a flat black or matte black paint comes out semi gloss sheen if applied very wet unless you’re spraying heavily.

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Posted by GMorrison on Thursday, October 18, 2018 12:29 PM

It's pretty clear to me that this is all beside the point for the OP. Their question was more basic, how to find a bottle of each of two colors labeled in model instructions as "matte black" and "matte brown".

Not "what makes paint matte".

In other words, a color question, not a finish question. The answer is that those areas of his model labeled to be painted as such are the road wheel rubber and the tool handles.

Those are easier questions to answer.

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Posted by kcrist84 on Monday, October 22, 2018 9:35 AM

Thanks everyone. I am still learning and got valuable info from all the different answers. 

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